Spin off: White/black men and swagger. What do white women have that black women do not?

In My Humble Opinion
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Well, black women don’t have the milky white breasts that I like so much.

I don’t know why we need to break these things down so much. Personal attraction is so subjective and can be strange. Anyone here ever been really attracted to person and not been able to figure out why (not what you normally consider attractive or repellant personality)? In my youth, I was in tumultuous relationship for several years with a bitch I couldn’t stand, but I was very attracted to her.

I was at a get-together yesterday with about 10 couples. There was a white woman with a black man, and a black woman with a black man. Neither of these men had what I would consider ‘swagger’. Both are great people, caring, sensitive and smart…but swagger? Not by any definition of the word.

EDIT: To be fair, I must mention that the average age at the get-together was 50.

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My guess on it is that it’s largely just confirmation bias. This notion exists that, somehow, black women are less attractive than white women for some unknown reason, and so, when I find a particular black woman unattractive it seems to be attributed to that notion, but when a particular white woman is unattractive, it’s simply because she’s unattractive. I think if I were to actually look at the percentages I find attractive of various races, it would probably end up being within a few percent for most.

Now, that’s not to say that there aren’t certain features that aren’t more or less prevalent in certain races that I find particularly attractive or unattractive, but I can also usually identify those particular features directly. For instance, one thing I’m particularly attracted to is particularly large eyes, which does tend to be more common in certain ethnicities (usually Northern/Eastern Europe, Hispanic) and less common in others (Western Europe and Black), and a girl I dated a little less than a year ago was black and had huge gorgeous eyes, but that doesn’t really fit that unidentifiable trait that the OP is refering to.

Anyway, my perspective would be to do a though experiment for the OP. Think about the black women you do find attractive and see what they have in common with women of other races you find attractive. Do the same for examples you find unattractive. I bet you can probably think of some white women that are generally considered attractive that you’re kinda meh about too, and it’s probably for a similar kind of unidentifiable reason too.

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Really? I frequently see black women who look like this, and she has fairly large eyes, wouldn’t you agree?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1R-X6xOuHwo/SnzSy0TazqI/AAAAAAAAEUc/qlHSvpLUnS4/s400/Miss+Tanzania+2009,+Illuminata+Wize+4.jpg

And when you say Hispanic, are you including mesitzos in that? Because in my experience, they very often have eyes that are at least borderline epicanthic. Not particularly large at all. Same with Eastern Europeans.

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Interesting replies, keep them coming!

I am, however, coming from a psychological or social angle. I know pretty much what I like in women physical-wise, regardless of her race.

When I’m sizing up a woman…I size up her looks first, intelligence second, and social compatibility third. Many women pass the first, some the second, but only a few with the third.

Due to population distribution, most of the women who fail the third test are white women. It’s simply more of them in this country. HOWEVER within the races, more black women seem to fail the third test. Like, out of every 10 white women I may find 3 or 4 to be socially compatible with me. But, with black women it’s more like 3 or 4 out of 20.

What do I define as social compatible? A lot of things. Some of them I can name, like similar tastes in music or whatever. Other things, I cannot. It’s just a feeling that I get. With some women, I just feel this “click” or chemistry. Like I’ve known them forever. Not feeling any anxiety about my friends meeting her, or me meeting her friends. Or taking her to a company Christmas party or my favorite bar. A general feeling that she would “fit” into my life.

I could say, it’s some sort of subconscious racism. Then again, I do feel this connection with some black women, just not a lot. And there’s many white women I don’t feel this connection with. I don’t think it’s a class thing, totally, something more subtle. An unidentifiable cultural signaling, perhaps?

A lot of black women say they have trouble finding partners. It does seem like there’s lot of single black women, and the few who aren’t seem to be dating those below their leagues. There’s a small percentage, however, seems to be succeeding very well in dating. Coincidently they have the “it” that I’m referring to above. Many men gravitate towards them, and I somehow gravitate towards them also.

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I would say those are slightly on the larger side. The particular one I was talking about though had eyes even noticeably larger than that photo.

Actually, as you mention it, I think so. Actually, now that I think about it, I think the majority of such examples are. I’m unsure if its exactly common, or I just notice it more though.

As for Eastern Europeans, well, all I can say is I’ve dated a lot (it’s like they come out of the woodwork when I’m looking :/), and most of them had this feature. So maybe I just have a bizarre sampling?

I don’t think it’s racist, even subconsciously, to acknowledge that socialization is a large part of what constitutes attraction and that there is going to be some racial tendencies that go along with certain social and cultural characteristics. There are those that break out of those social molds though as well.

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What do white women have that black women do not? White skin.

I’m an obese white woman, and I have been hollered at twice by black strangers (both times walking through parking lots) since surpassing the 250lb mark. I’ve never been hit on by a white guy since then. Interesting phenomenon, I suppose. Although I do wonder, what the hell kinda chicks are responding positively to being hit on in a parking lot? It stands to reason a guy wouldn’t do that unless it had worked for him in the past, right?

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You would think. But then, there are some stupid people in the world.

And now that I think about it, there are some stupid people who WOULD respond to that. Or maybe stupid isn’t the right word. Maybe they have low self-esteem?

And thinking further, why not a parking lot? Why say, a bar, over a parking lot? Lots of people go to bars and lots of people find themselves in random parking lots. There is no doubt considerable overlap between the two groups. Maybe that’s what these guys are betting on.

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Well, not really compared to these:

There’s big and then there’s BIG, ya know?