My headcanon is that there are many types of Gorn - it’s more of a category (maybe a genus?) than a single species. Not sure if they’re all under one government or some other arrangement.
I had forgotten all about that one - but why would the Gorn attack at all - when it can spit venom to make more Gorn?
I am not so much comparing ‘what we thought we knew’ with the Gorn of the other series - I am more thinking about ‘what we knew’ from SNW - I just cannot fathom how this race would achieve space flight - that takes cooperation - not always searching for the ‘alpha’.
So - much like the Orc(s) of Tolkien?
There was a planet in Enterprise which had several different dominant species. I forget the name.
I am holding tight to the fact that although Gorn cannot abide cold, Aenar were born for it.
The Xindi?
Behavior patterns for the young can be different from those for adults. This type of thing isn’t unprecedented in real r-strategy (or semi-r-strategy) species. Sharks, for example, eat each other in the womb, but that isn’t normal for the adults.
In fiction, similar behavior is used by the Prador in Neal Asher’s Polity books, the Martians in Stranger in a Strange Land, and Harry’s species in Resident Alien, for example.
…but it was still pretty obvious that Lt. Ensign We’ve Never Met Before was going to bite it.
I had no idea the actor for Hemmer was actually. blind. Good for SNW!
While I don’t think the notion of this kind of casting should be hammered in stone (See people who say that back in 2000 or whenever Professor X should have been played by an actual disabled actor)…when its possible go for it.
true - but he had a name and was not in a redshirt!
The only reason the characterization of the Gorn on SNW irked me is that whole point of the TOS episode they were introduced in is that the violence stemmed from misunderstandings that could have been talked out (and the fact that DS9 mentioned the Planet in question a lot, Cestus 3, it was implied that they did). It would have been better if they picked a race we know are jerks like the Nausicaans but the show is so good I let it go.
Yeah, the Gorn being a species of agressive endoparasites changes things completely. No matter how “nice” the Federation tries to be, that’s a species that needs to be eliminated.
The more that I think about it, the more I’m sad to see Hemmer go. It was interesting to have a pacifist in Starfleet. And overall a good character.
La’an left too. Which kind of helps me because I could never keep her apart from Ortegas in my mind. Don’t know why.
(Let’s see—La’an is British and Ortegas has a very expressive face. Did I get it right?)
Have to say, I’ve been very disappointed with Rebecca Romijn’s performance. I was really looking forward to her giving life to Number One.
Nurse Chapel, though. Jess Bush is electric.
Wondering why they are shedding cast.
Yep. I was telling my buddy about this episode an he immediately asked “Is her name Newt?”
That’s them.
I’ve just come to the decision that I’m going to give up any notion of trying to force myself to slog through the rest of Discovery or Picard. This is my Trek.
Quite frankly, this show has already delivered more excellent television than all of Discovery and Picard combined, and it’s not at all a close call. If they fuck it up in Season 2, well, they gave us this much, at least.
Maybe to make way for more TOS characters?
I just don’t get the disdain for PIC here, and in the more reactionary YT community (Ok i get they hate everything). I liked Season one eps 1-9 until all logic fell apart in ep 10. And season two seemed interesting enough for me to watch clips and read synopsi.
I will say that given its a ‘sequel’ to TNG and we as fans have a much better grasp on the throughline from TOS to TNG…they are really missing an opportunity to dig into even more the world-building of whats going on in the galaxy and the players we know. Season one did some but season two spent most of its time in the past…and season three is just going to have too many moving parts to give us a round picture.
I ENJOYED seeing Seven. And Hugh…there SO many characters still around and the actors who played them. I want to see the adventure continue after PIC wraps up and they kill off whoever they are going to do so…but Im frankly having a hard time coming up with an overall idea.
Getting back to SNW…I think the overall theme being the Adventures of Christopher Pike as he gets closer and closer to his destiny is a great idea.
I swear to God if they deconstruct Kirk, I’ll riot. (“Oh…im so green and I have so much to learn from Pike…in fact, hey! He’s my mentor!”)
Pike walks in on Kirk hitting on a woman:
“Hey Jim, you know you don’t have to sleep with everyone you meet!”
Stupid shit like that. The Abrams movies are a ridiculous mess of deconstruction as far as Kirk goes. And in the second movie they deconstructed their own fucking deconstruction!!!
“Did we just give the Enterprise to a guy fresh out of the Academy??? Fuck that.”
Kirk was a ‘stack of books with legs’. Who nearly married (Probably Carol) a woman he met in his very early youth. He lived through the Kodos atrocities. He served on the Farragut and is haunted by what happened there. He pushes that guy in The Corbomite Maneuver too hard cause he reminds him of himself (If im remembering that right) In my head-canon he was a self-made man. With a half-brother he was never close to. In fact his Kelvin youth is closer to what was in my head, until Spock fucked it all up with “Your father saw you graduate and was very proud of you.”
He wasn’t a fucking cocky, apple-eating dick who cant keep it in his pants and is constantly getting beat up. And running screaming through a jungle.
I enjoyed seeing Seven and Picard and etc. i didn’t enjoy anything about the story. Nothing that happened in Season 1 made sense to me and I have reached a point in Season 2 such that the prospect of trying to finish it fills me with dread.
The situations don’t make sense. The characters’ behavior doesn’t make sense. Stewart seems like he is not playing the same character.
For example, Seven on the one hand is trying to prevent people from harvesting implants from former Borg drones. On the other hand she says that one should feel no hesitation to kill newly assimilated people “because they are no longer human.” Seven of freaking Nine, a former Borg drone, who spends her time preventing harm to other former Borg drones, feels nothing for the humanity of Borg drones? What?
And I didn’t buy anything about the close relationship between Picard and Data. They were never that close. Data’s best friend was Geordi, and he was closer to everyone else than he was to Picard.
And I absolutely hated the final threat in Season 1. As well as the resolution.
And is Picard an android now or isn’t he?
The facts about everything seems to change from one episode to another. It’s a very badly written show.
Too long a post about Picard in this thread. I’ll stop here.