Right, which is why the leaders of the Alliance, who were members of the Senate back when that meant something, absolutely accept the idea of the Force and the powers of the Jedi. Han was not a part of the Republic government. He was a kid on a planet that, as far as I’m aware, was largely untouched by war. He knows who the Jedi were, and he knows they claimed to have supernatural powers, but he’d never seen it first hand, and he grew up in a world where the government line branded the Jedi as frauds and traitors, and probably carried some pretty hefty penalties for anyone who talked about them too fondly.
Note, also, that Han’s prejudice isn’t particularly deep. By the end of the movie, he tells Luke, in apparent sincerity, “May the Force be with you.” At this point, he still hasn’t seen any concrete evidence of the Force, other than Luke’s training session with the remote. I suspect that, until he met Luke and Ben, he’d never bothered questioning the “official” things he’d learned about the Jedi, because it had never mattered before.
I think you’re reading that too literally, I see it more like “the Anakin who was like a brother to me would have wanted you his son to have this, I know he would have”.
My mother once told me “your grandmother would have been so proud of you if she was here to see you, I know she would have” but my grandmother died before I was born so how could my mother have known that?
I’m not talking about cantina chit chat. I’m talking about data disks. Do you think that there’s such a booming market for news that various freighter captains are going to create fake stuff to sell?
How do you think news got around historically, before the telegraph? Through traders. (And pilgrims, soldiers, and so on.)
And if I’m a tramp freighter captain and I have a choice of carrying data disks full of news, and data disks full of porn or other entertainment, which do you think is going to be more profitable for me to sell?
It doesn’t really matter that the Jedi Temple is in the middle of Coruscant. Those guys just meditate in chambers and advise politicians–there’s going to be very little interesting “news” coming from there that would result in the average galactic citizen to have to acknowledge the Force is real.
The flashy stuff comes from full-on war zones or underworld crime areas where reports are going to be fragmented and unreliable by nature. Or, presumably, they will come from entertainment programs that are probably as faithful to Jedi reality as Hollywood is to ninjas–so hardly surprising that someone with a good dose of skepticism or cynicism in them would doubt the reports of what people could do twenty years ago.
But then the question becomes, who is interested in that? News networks have a hard enough time making people care about news that happens across an ocean. Who’s going to give a shit when it’s happening on another planet across the galaxy?
They can clearly broadcast voice and rudimentary images real time over insterstellar distances. But think about how much news there is to keep track of on just our planet, let alone millions of worlds across the galaxy. You would need something like the controlled demolition of Alderaan to actually make the intergalactic headlines.
The question remains - train him to do what exactly? Be the Last Jedi and go off and get himself killed or turned to the Dark Side?
Obi Wan did his job in that when he had an opportunity to deal a significant blow to the Empire, he took advantage of it. IOW, going off on a mission to get the Death Star plans to the Rebellion. He reluctantly let Luke come along, but how much Jedi shit did he actually teach him? A couple of practice swings with a lightsaber on the Millenium Falcon during the long flight from Tatooine? Some back story about the Jedi Knights, Clone Wars and the rise of the Empire that any third grader from Corruscant would know? He didn’t even tell Luke who he was or what his potential could be.
All Obi Wan did was give Luke the equivalent of a katana to use as a Swiss Army Knife and told him where to find a teacher after he was already dead.
Yet Vader in Empire and Return keeps saying “Obi-Wan trained you well.” Luke barely met Obi-Wan. The standard training montage was with Yoda. It was during that time when Luke was developing that the Emperor sensed his existence as a disturbance in the force. Perhaps that is why they didn’t train him.
“Look, buddy, I understand that the religious council that makes the laws on this planet recently outlawed Wookie-on-Twi’lek porn. So I don’t have any of that. But I do happen to have this holorecording of the recent Senate debates concerning the grain tariff proposals for the Tarsal sector. I think you’ll like it <wink>”
But he didn’t know how long Obi-Wan had been training Luke before he died. Remember, Vader’s training began at 10 and that was considered late by Jedi standards.
Exactly. For all Vader knew Obi had been training Luke since he was a toddler. Which just means that “trained you well” is no longer a compliment, but some snarky sarcasm! Just watch all the shit Jedi did in the prequels and you realize that Luke was a complete poser of a Jedi.
