Star Wars: Do Jedis not have a problem with lying?

You know, there really isn’t much in the movies to back up the statement that Anakin ever really was that good of a person. Maybe he wasn’t choking that many people pre-Vader, but he was still a whiny cocky brash narcissistic asshole.

Getting back to the OP, even Quigon tried to lie to get his ship fixed (“republican credits are fine”).

I never imagined that Jedi had any sort of moral code that precluded lying. They’re simply warrior monks who enforce peace through any means available. Theatricality and deception are powerful agents after all.

Because General Rieekan wanted a Waldorf salad!

Krayt dragon. Also, Tusken Raiders. They’re from Tattooine, not Tuscany. :wink:

All it’ll take is for one Clone Wars episode to say “Jedi never lie” and boom - canon - even if it makes no sense at the time and has numerous counter-examples before and after.

Same thing happened to Vulcans.

[QUOTE=Jack Sparrow]
Me I’m dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly it’s the honest ones you have to watch out for, you never can predict if they’re going to do something incredibly stupid.
[/QUOTE]

No, the Jedi don’t have a problem with lying if the cause is good. After all, “Only a Sith thinks in absolutes!”

“Do, or do not. There is no try.”

One of them is lying.

Like this?
[Quote=Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country]
Captain James T. Kirk: Names, Lieutenant!

Lieutenant Valeris: I do not remember.

Captain Spock: A lie?

Lieutenant Valeris: A choice.

[/quote]

Okay.

Y’know, there’s great benefit to be had in spreading about the rumor that you never lie. Especially if you do. The Vulcans realized that, and maybe so did the Jedi.

Quite so. Being honest, and being widely seen as honest, is consistent with Jedi good-guy values, and is the usual Jedi practice. But sometimes, on rare occasions, you serve the greater good by lying. Then lie you must.

Oh, not again… again

Which brings me to the stupidest thing in the prequels, IMHO. Why the hell are Republic credits worthless on a planet where people have spaceships that can fly to the Republic?

If I wanna pay you in money that can’t be spent here, but can be spent a six hour drive from here, that money isn’t worthless. Especially since he was offering a ton of money. Hey asshole, fly over to the Republic Walmart and buy something that isn’t worthless on this sandy shithole.

Shit, trade the ship for passage on a freighter. I’m sure some captain is vulnerable to mind control and would love a shiny ship with a simple engine problem in exchange for acting as a taxi for a day.

No, the obvious choice is to put a six year old in a death race where members of the audience murder them with rifles and it’s okay to openly sabotage an opponents vehicle on the starting line.

Well, it was a more civilized time…

Your doings, they are seen.

Wait, did I just Jedi mind trick you?

Heck, he followed up by successfully passing off the won-it-in-a-game-of-chance line.

They’re not lying; they’re unreliable narrator-ing…

That’s a point of view most of us would call a lie. But all lies aren’t equal. There’s nothing morally wrong about telling the Stormtroopers those weren’t the droids they were looking for.

When men were REAL men, women were REAL women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were REAL small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.

For that matter, they could have mind-tricked a moneychanger into accepting the Republic credits, and used local currency to buy the engine repairs.