I’ve just started watching this series again this season. Alot has changed, but my geeky girlfriend has been catching up and relaying what all’s happend in the seasons that I’ve missed.
Random thoughts:
Priors look alot like Dark Jedi…and their powers are about the same. Not implying there’s a connection (well…they *are *from a galaxy far, far away), but it’s still an inside joke between me and the girlfriend.
I totally saw the blackhole coming the moment they noted the planet was shrinking.
Vala’s not dead. No way they’d kill a gem like that.
The Ori look to be like some powerful, scary dudes.
Yeah… I was SO glad to see the Goa’uld removed as a series baddie- they’d gotten very stale, even when they half-ascended. It’s good to see a powerful, frightening evil force.
And they are frightening- they’re missionaries who can easily prove to you that their gods really DO exist… oh, and they’ll destroy you if you don’t believe 'em. Scary stuff.
As much as I like Amanda Tapping… I want more Claudia Black!
Well, SG-1 gets to the planet the Prior is trying to get ahold of, and end up having to use a Naquadria-enhanced nuke to try and take out the Stargate. Turns out the forcefield surrounding it absorbs energy and uses it to expand. The forcefield surrounds the entire planet, and they figure out that Nerus is actually working for the Ori.
They realize the planet is starting to shrink in diameter, and finally figure out that it’s going to become a black hole, enough to open a stable, permanent wormhole in a much bigger Stargate that the Ori have already started to construct (in very small pieces.) Vala decides to take matters into her own hand, and hijacks a cargo ship lurking nearby to insert it into where the last piece of the Mega-gate should be, thus causing everything to jam and fall apart. She attempts to escape before the planet collapses into a singularity, but misses. Much sorrow is had, until Carter reveals that there was a matter stream going into the singularity, which was possibly Vala’s beam. Quips are had about her giving the Ori a hard time. Then, the new General (whatever his name is) gives a stern lecture to Nerus about the evils of the Ori, and how he’s going to work for their side now. Of course Nerus will have no part of it. Then they inform him that he’s going to spend time in the dungeon. Without food.
I don’t know. This show is getting a might ridiculous. Farscape: SG1.
Where’s Moya & Scorpius?
Now humans have got a fleet of Prometheus class ships, all equipped with Asgard Hyperdrive, shields, & beaming technology? They hardly need stargates anymore, just hop in your ship and fly to another galaxy.
Where are the Asgard, BTW? Are they unconcerned about the Ori?
I say tell the Wraith there are lots of juicy humans in the Ori galaxy, and let them have at it.
I can’t stand the Jaffa anymore. Please let them be wiped out or something. They’re just silly.
The Goa’uld are what now, a cartoon of themselves?
What about all the other advanced races SG1 has encountered? They’re unconcerned with the galaxy being almost destroyed every other week? I want to see the Ori show up on what’stheirname’s planet. The ones with the twigs in their hair and the invisible floating cities? Where are they?
The Ori are ridiculously over-powered. Just one of these guys armed with nothing but a glowing staff-thingie, can make a planet into a black hole. What a coincidence they tried it on a planet with Jaffa on it. What’s to stop them from doing on any one of the other million or billion planets with a stargate on it?
Yet Carter and/or Vala is going to thwart them somehow each week.
I’ll keep watching each week, just out of loyalty to the show, but c’mon. This is getting crazy.
I am glad to see Sam back. I am a creature of habit, but I also like Sam’s adventurous/figure-it-out attitude over Vala’s seual-innuendo/con-artist attitude. Vala’s seem 2-dimensional and Sam’s seems dead-ended. However both can grow and Vala’s had some interesting glimpses into a character that took advantage of the foolish but not the naive. I would like to see Vala developed more.
It’s hard after the galaxy sweeping Goa-uld and Replicators to create another powerful but scary race, but I think they’ve done well. Having Nerus protrayed as quite the opportunist and con-man turn out to have been so easily converted to belief in the Ori is a frightening idea. And I too like his final punishment, not to die and ascend, but to be kept starving in a basement.
The Ori using technology to invade makes them less god-like and mysterious, even if they can create a blackhole to power a mega-gate. As to why they don’t do this again and again, it’s because they needed the ignorance and power of their enemy to make this work. They needed to be attacked so that the Ori staff (and link through the gate?) could be powered and expand the force field. Now that this tactic is known, another Prior could enter another world and expand a bubble while being attacked locally, but without super powered weapons it couldn’t consume the planet. We would just ignore him and he’s be stuck in this bubble until he gave up.
I wonder whether the scenario (we attack and power the invader) is a one-off or a glimpse into the Ori’s strategy. The Ori could have a system whereby they need the input (and perhaps even resistance) of people to stay in power. For example, what if they kept Harrid/Sallis’s people in the state they were in because they need them that way. They need people to have daily and multi-day rituals. They need worship. They need resistance. All because they need the minds of the people focussed on the Ori to actually empower the Ori. If no one thought too much about them the Ori might grow weak and die.
I understand that’s a very clever technique. Just have a lone, single Ori (Orum?) hold off a fleet of ships, using their own power against them. That should have tremendous psychological impact. But, it just seems to me if they have the technology to do that, they also have the technology to build their own naquada(?) bombs and power up a shield somewhere else, without using someone else’s power.
But I’m willing to suspend disbelief on that point. Yet, even before they used the bomb, that guy was holding open the stargate past the 38 minute limit, wasn’t he? And doesn’t that take impossible amounts of energy?
A single Prior. But I wouldn’t be surprised to find that the Ori had setup a world within their domain to have collapsed itself into a black hole just so that they could power a stargate. And had another collapse itself to power the other mega-gate on their end too. This is especially frightening beacuse they would have done it willingly, neh, joyously.
And in some epsidoe, I’m sure we’ll come to fight the masses, not to kill them because they are attacking, but trying to stop them from killing themselves for the greater power of the Ori.
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As for Vala, maybe she beamed into the Ancients mega-gate delivery system. An automated platform whose technology has been appropriated by the Priors, but who let it run automatically. It’s job was to do exactly what it did, send mega-gate components through a regular gate and assemble them. She falls unconscious, like Daniel, for a few hours and wakes exhausted in a control room. No Priors are around because they set it on automatic.
She then realizes her plight and has to insinuate herself into the society. She uses the technology to dress up as a Prior and pretend to be one, like she pretended to be a Goa’uld god, as she searches for a way to survive and get home.
I don’t know…I’m a die hard fan of Stargate SG1, but I agree that I’m not sure this francise can keep going. While I know the Ancients don’t interfear in the activities of being on the “lower planes”, I can’t believe that they would just sit there and not give any information or help to stave off what is basically an invastion of thier galaxy. My understanding of how this is all set up is that basically the ancients said “You can have that galaxy to do what you want, but stay out of this one”, so why aren’t they taking a hand to keep the priors out?
Of course I’ll keep watching, but they need to start going somplace a bit more believable quickly.
Wasn’t there something about if the Priors themselves start invading the Galaxy and kicking ass, the Ancients could intervene, but they can’t prevent the Priors from gathering followers and taking over through them? And that’s why the Priors are limited to passive invasion techniques?
You’re confusing the Ori with Priors. Ori are the ascended beings who want to be worshiped. Priors are their devout followers. And yes, the Ori themselves cannot invade the galaxy, because the Ancients have no problem with kicking ass in their own “realm.” But since they won’t interfere with the affairs of lower beings, the war between the Priors and our galaxy will go on without direct intervention from either side.
See, that’s were I like to pick nits. I don’t think they’ve come out and really explained how the Priors work just yet. Do they truely control some of the same powers that you would have if you were ascendant? Seems to me that they can do a whole lot more than Anubis could, and he used to be ascendant. So if they are just channeling the power of the Ori, then the ancients should be at least willing to lend a tidbit of help. I also can’t tell how many priors there are, but there don’t seem to be entire cities of them, so where is the technological base for creating the super gate things? Still say the series is starting to make less sense. And that’s one of the things that I used to really like about it, that within thier own universe, the situations made at least a little sense.
:smack: You’re right, of course, silly me. But not allowing super-beings to invade and instead said beings give their superpowers to their followers and the followers get to invade seems like something of a fine distinction. Maybe Daniel will end up pointing this out to Ancients, though, and they decide to give Daniel/SG1/Vala?! superpowers to combat things (making them the Avatar or some such) and I’ve just given away the season finale.
