He knows what it was like for people like him. It’s those scary “others” that he never takes into account. Jesus, the man said once that black people were very happy before the Civil Rights Movement.
Starving Artist, like many on the right, wants to bring America back to a golden age which never actually existed.
Yep, I for one vote women all go back to the kitchen and blacks go back to knowing their role.
You’re not evil because you’re voting Republican. You’re voting Republican because you’re evil.
If he’s evil, it’s for putting his own social comfort ahead of other people’s basic human rights. There are Democrats who would do the same.
(I know you’re joking, but I wanted to address it nevertheless.)
I strongly disagree. He is one industrial strength idiot.
Exhibit 1
He went into that thread claiming something totally idotic. He insisted on his claim until there was enough people telling him there was no way that could be so. And then he disappeared without a word. Too small to admit he was talking out of his ass. I had to restrain myself from pitting him then. Now is a good time to tell him he is a frucking idiot.
Starving Artist ≠ Smiling Bandit.
Either I’m confused, I’m being wooshed, or you linked to the wrong thread, but I don’t see Starving Artist in that thread.
sailor got Starving Artist and Smiling Bandit confused. They’re both conservative. One isn’t crazy.
Yeah, Polycarp can’t tell us apart either. Makes me a little less inclined to take either one seriously.
Hey, Banquet Bear! How the hell are ya? Long time, no see. Email me a forwarding address and I’ll send you a whole case.
Hi, darling Zoe! thanks for the kind words. As I’ve said before, if all liberals were like you this country would be a much better place.
As for the numerous (and predictable) misstatements about what I’ve said, what I believe and what I allegedly want, they’ll have to wait until I have sufficient time to address them as given the sheer number of them composing responses will likely take hours.
Or on the other hand, I might choose to adopt the position that if you can’t argue against the things I’ve actually said and you have to misrepresent them instead, I’ve already won anyway.
We’ll see.
Oh shit. I’m sorry. Please disregard my post and accept my apologies.
Done, and done. Thanks very much for the apology.
The point about being black (or Chinese, or whatever) is of course a good one. Life for a black man prior to the Civil Rights movement could be hellish. It’s stupid and preposterous to suggest society was more civil because it was more civil just for white folks.
But to be honest, it’s not true for white people, either. Prior to WWII - even before the Depression - a lot of things went on in common society we’d consider appalling today. Open fistfights between grown men were commonplace. Drunkenness was extremely rampant, vastly more so than now - there is a reason Prohibition was a popular movement - and as destructive, if not more so, than all narcotics are today combined. Child abuse, teenaged pregnancy, child abandonment and the like were all commonplace, albeit not spoken of. Workers were treated poorly and subjected to hazardous working conditions as a matter of course. And of course, if you didn’t like a black guy in your store, you told the “nigger” to get the hell out. That trumps a lot of rap lyrics, in my opinion.
The idea that manners and politeness are on the decline is an idea people have beleived since before Starving Artist’s great-grandparents were born; indeed, it likely goes back to before Columbus discovered America. If it had been true all this time by now we’d be setting each other on fire with flamethrowers every time two people met.
White men. I think that any woman who didn’t keep to her “place” found society less than civil.
This is utter nonsense. Nobody’s basic human rights have to suffer in order for people to not act like assholes.
That “golden age”, as you put it, only seems golden when compared with society today.
However, you’re wrong that I want to take America back there. I don’t waste my time wanting the impossible. What I want is to keep you guys from screwing things up even worse than they are now.
As to your Republican/evil wisecrack, I have only this to say:
More dumbassedness from you. You’re really on a roll aren’t you? When have I ever referred to anyone as either ‘scary’ or ‘others’?
Never, that’s when.
And when did I ever say black people were ‘very happy’ before the Civil Rights Movement?
Again, never!
If you can’t attack me honestly, you have no business attacking me at all (though you’ll certainly have plenty of company) because then I win the point, you see.
Yeah, who am I gonna believe, you or my lying eyes?
And why did you not also include my reasons for making those statements?
You know perfectly well that for any so-called proof, statistics, reports, whatever that someone on one side here presents, the other side can just as easily find proofs, statistics, reports, etc. to support the opposite view. Most of the time around here I simply have to take a look at who’s presenting the data to know wheter that data will be suspect…and even if I believe in the integrity of the poster at hand, there’s still plenty of room for doubt as to whether his cites are tell the whole story and can be accepted as incontrovertible proof.
I lived for twenty years before all this shit started (and just to nip in the bud any notion that I’m talking about racial and sexual equality, see my comments that Rubystreak posted upthread) and I travelled around the country a fair amount during that time and experienced a lot of different people in a lot of different situations. I know perfectly well how people behaved then, and it was nothing like you’ve all either been taught or deluded yourselves into believing.
No, I’m afraid it’s your opinion here that is wholly based in ignorance. See my post to mhendo above. I lived and experienced quite a lot of this country for at least twenty years before you guys started fucking things up, and I’ve watched with disgust and disdain every step of the way as they’ve gotten worse and worse.
And people say I’m the one who’s like Der Trihs. :rolleyes:
You’re a fucking idiot!
Still, even assuming it’s a conservative who dons the Klan hood and rallies the crowd (does anyone even do that anymore) and not a southern Democrat (I know, I know…they are really Republicans at heart), your point is still ridiculous. Do you have any idea how many millions of conservatives live in this country, and how few of them have ever even seen a Klansman?
Your equation of conservatives with lynching Klansmen is dispicable, though not out of the ordinary around here.
And yes I noticed you managed to work Jesus into the equation as well. Big deal.
Wow, a compliment from Hector the Librarian. Cool.
It’s true. We conservatives are a polite and considerate lot. You may have noticed that Revenant Threshold, the poster to whom I directed that comment, politely bade me goodnight as well.
Only on the Dope would someone find himself criticized for being polite. Sort of points out the very thing I’ve been complaining about regarding lack of class these days, don’t you think?
I bet you are, too.
I would never hurt you. I would protect you!
(Okay, that’s only a line from some movie, but it’s appropriate nonetheless.)
The great thing about Starving Artist is that he makes my case for me every time he posts.
Indeed. Your civility and decorum are the stuff of legend.
Fuck you.
If only he wasn’t evil for voting republican.
Though I’m sure luci gets the gag, I should probably point out to the more humor-impaired among you that that was a joke!
Are you saying that you were deliberately acting like a Dick?
I want MY cigarettes, Miss Ratched!