Martini Enfield has consistently been an apologist for the sort of behavior I was talking about. He’s defending people who, he admitted up thread, would be happier if steam never gave away anything.
He incorrectly implied that you needed to buy $30+ games to get anything here. What am I gonna do, just let that go by unchallenged? It’s misleading at best.
Look, the way I see it, most of what you’re complaining about is nothing more than Internet Ranting. People get carried away about shit on the Internet all the time and mostly they don’t actually mean it; they just want to vent (or they’re exaggerating for comic or hyperbolic effect).
And whilst you may not need to buy $30+ games to participate in the competition, that’s certainly how it appears on the face of it- when I saw the competition screen upon loading Steam, I thought “What a cool idea… wait, hang on, to participate I have to buy and play a bunch of games I’m either not interested in or can’t afford. Oh well, not for me then. Interesting idea , though.”
Eh, if your internet ranting is irrational, I’m going to point out why. Your statements have amounted to being an apologist for irrational people or false or misleading statements.
You still persist that it seems like you need to buy expensive games to participate. Why? Of the 12 objectives so far, 3 have been games that cost more than $25, 4 have been free, and 5 have been $1.25-$5 games. You only need to hit 10 out of a total of 28 possible objectives to be qualified for the main contest. For each giveaway every other day, you can obtain 1-2 out of a possible 4 tickets for free, and 1-2 of the others for $5 or under. Only one objective per day has required more money. But even if you ignore those objectives entirely, you will easily be qualified for the main drawing, and you will get 3 out of 4 possible tickets into the 48 hour entries.
So the people who are willing to give lots of money to steam get 4 tickets per 48 hour contest instead of 3. Are you really so entitled that you think this is an injustice against you?
If you’d be happier if they just never had deep sales or gave stuff away because then you wouldn’t have ridiculous stuff to nitpick, there’s an error somewhere in your thinking somewhere.
The world’s full of irrational people. I just don’t see it as anything to get too worked up over, to be honest.
Because it seems like you need to buy expensive games to participate. I’ve already acknowledged that you don’t have to, but that’s certainly how it looks, at least at first.
For about the third time in this thread:
I, personally, really don’t care about the whole thing. I’m not “entitled” enough to think the sales an injustice, and I don’t think that they shouldn’t be having sales at all.
You’re the one frothing at the mouth about the fact other people are frothing at the mouth about Steam’s promotion. It’s very meta, when you think about it.
I don’t recall actually saying I agree with the people ranting about the promotion. What I’ve said is that I understand where they’re coming from, and I’ve offered a few thoughts to that end. Not the same thing at all.
Just FYI if anyone hasn’t noticed the tasks can be retroactive (just not the sales or the 5 games give-aways) so if you change your mind and do an expired achievement and still get a ticket for the main drawing.
Well, I think you’re wrong and often making ill thought out or misleading claims. So I’m going to address them.
But why, and to who? To Palooka, whose comments were the ones that triggered your comment? He should know from reading the thread and from being generally familiar with Valve that they’re going to give you at least 7 freebies and possibly 10 - and there have already been enough $2.50 or less sales to get your 10 objectives assuming those freebies. We’ve only had 3 of a possible 12 objectives that have cost more than $5.
Now you can say that’s not likely to hold up, but I’m very confident it is. Valve is very generous and inclusive when it comes to this sort of stuff - it’s extremely unlikely they’re going to put a halt to the free and $2.50 objectives. Most likely, I think they’ll work in enough free objectives that everyone will get an entry without buying anything.
No doubt the people who win the games (there are 3 100-game giveaways) will be people who got in for free, who own 9 games, who were bitching about Valve the entire time.
Anyway, there’s no reason to suspect that participation in this will require the purchase of an expensive game. You have not demonstrated a case to that effect.
It’s not meta. People get angry at other people for being angry at things all the time.
It’s funny and sad to me that in a world of nearly pure evil (video game publishing and sales), Valve stands as a lone beacon of awesomeness. They’ve always done right by their customers and have been extremely generous. And yet anytime they try to do the community a favor, I see about 10 times as much complaining about it as grattitude. OMG VALVE HAD THE AUDACITY TO GIVE AWAY GAMES IN NOT EXACTLY THE WAY I WANTED. OMG VALVE MADE A GAME SUPER CHEAP FOR PEOPLE BUT I ALREADY OWN IT. OMG HATE.
More people should be angry at the ungrateful community lest we be left with EA and activision and all those fucking bastions of pure evil fucking us in the ass.
Yeah, well you sound like Glenn Beck or a conspiracy theorist types. "Oh, I’m not saying I agree, but people have been saying [arguments], and they have a point because [supporting arguments], but oh I’m not saying I agree!
It’s a way to try to advocate an argument without living up to being accountable for it.
Well I’m sure SenorBeef will be by to update the achievements/sales soon but one of them is to give a gift.
I still have Half Life 2 in my account (I even offered before in a thread to give it away and had no takers). So anyone who doesn’t have it want it now? If not I’ll gift it to my wife’s account but I know she’ll never play it so it’d just be a waste.
Mutter, mutter, hate…
I was about to praise Steam and buy a game that I actually wanted and was actually on sale, until I discovered it’s only Left 4 Dead 2: castrated edition. So scratch that, and it’s all thanks to the Australian Censorship Board.
If you get someone to gift you a copy will it be the proper version?
Grrrr Valve for letting Australia exist!
Can’t post new stuff yet. Out, on iPod.
It’s Better to Give
Send a gift to a friend
Take One for the Team
Make a Sacrifice in Call of Duty: Black Ops (no sales)
Breaker, Breaker
Set a leaderboard score of at least 11,200,000 for ‘Bonus Mode’ in Shatter
**Shatter ** 75% off today £1.75
Zombie Zoo
Create a Crass Menagerie in
** Left 4 Dead 2** 75% off today £3.74
Sorry about the UK pricing but I’m sure you can figure it out.
A quick search of the internet suggests that this is indeed a workaround.
Message me on Steam and I’ll gift the game to you if you paypal the money back.
Well with my ‘gift’ to Grumman I’m now at 10 points. I’m still willing to give HL2 to anyone who wants it.
I think I’ve spent about £15 or so but mostly on stuff I was curious about anyway. Thankfully I have no interest in hats so at least I’m not going to waste my energy on that. I would like to stay in the daily drawings but I’m not going to buy anything I wasn’t going to anyway for those either. I wonder if they’re going to do any more drawings for Xmas. I think they must really be raking in the cash with these sales and giveways but there must be a point where consumer exhaustion sets in.
Steam forums say that if you’ve ever gifted a game, you get the gifting achievement. Doesn’t have to be done today.
And pretty much everyone has L4D2.
Shatter is pretty good if you like brick breaker games. Worth $2.50.
You know what would be kind of awesome? There are probably thousands of people who REALLY FUCKING CARE ABOUT HATS who are buying everything left and right to get the 28 objective hat. Anyway, what would be awesome is if on the last day, steam made the last objective owning Railworks and all 68 DLC packs. There would be a legitimate reason for some STEAM RAGE there.
If it makes you feel any better, we’ll almost certainly have an R18+ rating for games next year, at which point they’ll no doubt “update” the Australian version of L4D2. Hopefully. 
Well I’m in karma debit. After having Grumman paypal me the money to buy him L4D2 someone else on my friends list randomly gifted me L4D2 for free. I guess I’m going to have to practice (and buy a mic) so I can play a little with SDMB people.
I played a bit on the single player maps and I’m pretty crap. I was gassing a car and couldn’t figure out how to get to a couple of the highlighted fuel tanks and was murdered b/c I wasn’t paying attention to the infected. It’s pretty depressing when it seems like the AI was taking less damage then me.
For some reason, I’m particularly terrible at the L4D games. I mean, I’m not very good at shooters in general, but I mostly get by okay. I tried playing some single-player L4D2 last night, trying to get Crass Menagerie for the treasure hunt, and sucked so hard that Electrolux would have bowed down in awe. I had to get rescued a couple of times by the AI, even on easy mode (chargers got me both times).
Then the game crashed repeatedly, and I gave up for the night.
I was playing on normal and I’m pretty sure I was almost through the Hotel campaign. I just played the other campaigns long enough to get the achievements. I’m probably going to give it another go tomorrow and see if I can’t at least beat them on my own.
Still need a mic though. I wonder if I should just order off amazon.
Edit: Oh and even not knowing much about the game I knew you were supposed to leave the witches alone. Too bad nobody told the stupid AI. Three times they set her off. Morons.