Apparently, she’s too good for it…Whatever. Considering the assreaming she gave Scylla, after sending him a really nasty fucking e-mail. Hypocrite.
Jeezus, folks. If Stoid shows up here, what will be accomplished? From her perspective, y’all won’t understand or agree with her. From your perspective, nothing she can say will change anything.
What’s she going to do? I reckon not saying anything is the wisest choice, don’t you?
A big ol’ fucking chunk of venting, I reckon. Most Pit threads do that.
You know, to me, this thread represents everything that’s wrong with the pit. I don’t see eye-to-eye with Stoid on most political issues, and certainly disagree with her on this one as well, but this whole concept of a forum where you can gang-shit on people is just a bunch of childish crap. And I don’t really give a damn whether Stoid is guilty of heaping abuse on others as well. I dream of a day when the pit is dismantled.
How amusing… when I read that, I noted that your post count was “666” 
Actually, many Pit threads are just more heated exchanges. Both sides duke it out. At least that’s how I see most Pit threads go. There are two sides to an argument, or an issue, right? Usually.
But in this case, both sides are not really being discussed. Stoid won’t grace us with her presence to explain or defend her stance, and there doesn’t seem to be anyone else to stand up for her side either. So, we are merely venting. Something I think is necessary at times, cathartic, and appropriate for the Pit.
The way I read it, no one is particularly concerned with Stoid’s political ideology in this thread, or her “heaping abuse on others.” They’re concerned about her hypocricy, which is so stunning in its breadth and scope that jaws have been known to dislocate at the hinges during the drop.
That she simply tunes out anyone who calls her on her intellectual dishonesty seems to indicate we’re all just little pixels here for her entertainment, and she doesn’t want to be bothered with such things as consistency within her own viewpoint.
And I’d rather she be jolted out of that blissful lack of awareness here than regularly pollute the other forums.
Just ignore her, you say? That works about the first 20 times. And it’s not as if she doesn’t add interesting points to most debates, even if I virtually always disagree with them. I thought only trolls were sent off to Coventry.
One of the reasons this is such a vibrant, consistently good and sustainable message board community is The Pit, IMHO (sorry; wrong forum). And that’s coming from someone who’s been on both sides of the flame-thrower.
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WOW, y’all must really be pissed at Stoid. But, it must be from previous interaction, because I don’t get it from here.
I’m male and I wasn’t offended at all the ‘very, very male’ statement. I like to think that I’m pretty darned male. I mean, I don’t go around waving my willy and requesting service, but it doesn’t bother me that someone would say that. People say a lot of things. I don’t always notice when my girlfriend gets a haircut or has her nails done, and she blows it off by saying that I’m ‘too male to notice’. Maybe so, maybe not.
Actually (remind me to regret this later) I support Stoid’s stance that the action cited was evidence of him (Clinton) being a jerk and not necessarily a harrasser. (I don’t want to hijack the thread but, I think the legal definition of ‘harrasser’ may need to be revisited.) Anyway, “flash your peepee and go to jail” ??? The people responsible for making that decision apparently declined. And yes, I realize that decision may have been politically motivated, but that’s another thread in itself.
To Stoid I say:
It sounds like you’ve had a rough life from a sexual assault point of view. You’re the last person (type of person) I’d expect to have such a nonchalant attitude toward willy-waving, but I salute you. It sounds like you put the past behind you and got on with your life (not that rapists and such should be forgiven - just that the deed can’t be undone).
I don’t want to start an argument with the rest of you. I only hope that someday I’ll believe in something, anything, so much that it will evoke such an emotional response from the masses.
Peace, baby.
Braindoggy-I see you at SAAN, btw-Stoid has a history of hypocrisy. She wont’ do the Pit if it’s in her name-yet she has NO PROBLEM dragging others in here to insult them, and send them nasty e-mail.
She claims that no woman should be traumatized by seeing her boss’s shlong, YET, when a well respected poster offered that a medical experience she had may not exist-she tore him a new one-overreacting as usual.
She is smug, egotistical, and some of us are down right tired of it. Even moderators have suggested as such.
Just adding to the above . . . she also felt free to tell me to “blow her” in Great Debates, and when I ripped her up one side and down the other for it in the appropiate forum – here in the Pit – she grandly announced that she’s not going to “do” the Pit any more.
Well, I for one am glad we have the Pit for precisely such events – the flame wars that inevitably arise when people can’t be civil in other forums. Because if I’m having an otherwise civilized discussion and someone says “Jodi, you can just blow me,” we’re goin’ to the woodshed and that’s all there is to it.
None of which has anything to do with THIS thread . . . more of a response to the people deploring the mere existence of the Pit.
Yeah, that’s the crux of it. Because she wouldn’t be traumatized, no one should be traumatized. That’s been her stance. She’s been poo-pooing any woman who would react differently than she would react. Like we all are the same, and have the same sensibilities. How amazingly arrogant, presumptuous, and hypocritical.
But of course, when it was the other way around (she claimed a certain experience she had was horrible, someone else questioned that) she tore the person a new one. But, oh - it’s OK if she questions someone else’s reaction to something, because she wouldn’t react in the same way. See? Amazing, jaw-dropping hypocrisy.
Yosemite? I think I love you I’m SOOOOOO glad that my scathing comments aren’t standing alone on the field of two-faced debate here. Thank you. Would you prefer a small ceremony in Malta, or an immense sprawling wedding affair in the Hamptons?
Cartooniverse
Am I some kind of midaeval creature? Since I can remember, a man doesn’t touch a woman unless asked. Doesn’t make unwanted advances. Doesn’t EVER make the first move. Lets his partner decide where, when, what, and how much. When did this stop being normal? I’m not exactly ancient.
Having said that: In a world where there are thousands of women trapped in situations where their livelihoods depend on their continued silence despite constant unwanted advances,a woman who uses “sexual harrassment” for personal or professional gain deserves no respect. I’ve worked places where specific women worked their way to the top by dressing like hookers and suing the company when men gawked at them. There’s a word for women like this, but I don’t use it.
Just my $.02
billy
Just to make sure everyone’s perfectly clear on where I stand- as a poster, I don’t like Stoid. As a moderator, I have no opinion of her, as she has not committed any infractions.
John
That sounds suspiciously like a “I love you, I’m just not IN love with you. Let’s just be friends.” line.
Or, “As your friend, I think you’re a great addition to this company. As your boss, you’re fired, and if you’re not out by noon I’ll call security.” That line’s no fun either.
hijak: Billy, you sound like a sweetie. I like knowing people like you exist.
issue: Yea, Stoid is …facinating… on one hand her self centered passions can add so much needed fire to life. On the other, running roughshod over other’s feelings is not really something I can respect.
I didn’t mean it that way, John, just that some mods have suggested that she’s too heavy handed in her arguments. I would pay credit to what the mods say, even if they are saying it as POSTERS, since they know the way the board works and the like.
I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to make it sound like you guys were out to get her banned, or anything.
I think I agree with Kathryn. She can be interesting, and sometimes I agree with her. It’s the way she decides, “I’m right and that’s that.” THAT always pisses me off.
Oh, boy, a Stoid barbecue. Again. Whoo-pee. Gee, sorry, folks, I forgot to bring the sausages.
If she starts a thread (in this case in GD), states a position, and then defends that position, is that wrong? As I recall from the offending thread in question (pass the sauce, this steak’s a little over-charred. Thanks), Stoid was called to account for her statement regarding special privileges. She agreed she muffed it, and moved on. Doesn’t sound to me as if she’s just out to build that wall higher and higher. (Hey, great beer! Try Brand X next time. I think I need a fork.)
sounds of munching Sexual harrassment is a personal issue. I can appreciate both PunditLisa’s side and Stoids, however. There seems to be a correlation between men with political/financial power and incidents of extra-marital nooky which is made an all the more obvious boil among the pimples of scandal with relation to the fame and prestige of the one who gets caught out.
Thanks, folks. Loved the meal. I’d like to stay, but I’ve gotta go. There might be something on TV to intrigue the baser fancies of my taste … :rolleyes: