Stop denying it! Admit it!

Ok, I’m new to this rant thing (I’m more into reading other’s rants than writing my own) but I just can’t stand it anymore.

My best friend is in a relationship which she denies she’s in. And I can’t stand it anymore. I just want her to admit that she’s in one.

Ok, background info: I’ve known my best friend all through high school. When we get to Year 11, she starts seeing the elder brother of one of my friends (who is a bit of a loser, no one is quite sure how he came to be in our group of friends). Said elder brother is also a loser, a jerk, pain in the arse, you name it. All of my friends and I could see he was a massive wanker, but for the sake of my best friend, would refrain from making our thoughts audible in front of her. Then they get engaged. She was forever making excuses for him. Like she couldn’t go out with us late in the evening because he had to be at work early in the morning, because of course, he had to come out with us. Anyway, that’s just one example. They’ve had several big bust ups in their 6 year relationships, finally it came to end when she grew a spine and realised “it wasn’t working”.

Anyway, after being split with him for how many months, we would often have conversations on how much he and his family were trash, and how she would make excuses. She’d come to the same conclusion that we did some 6 years before. So now she swears she’s not going to be in another long term relationship, at least not for a long time. Shortly after she split with loser, bouquets of flowers started appearing at her house. She’d say they were from a friend at work which i seriously doubted. On one of them, I opened the note. It was from a guy who more or less pledged his undying love for her. I asked who this guy was and she replied just a guy from her community band that she’s been a member for several years now. She said that she’s told him that she doesn’t want anything longtime from him, just sex etc.

Anyway, her birthday comes around and all of us (friends from high school) are invited, and said guy is coming. So it’s the big introduction thing. The thing is, she’s not saying he’s her boyfriend. But it’s quite obvious he is. We go out for tea, we crash at her place, they go off to bed. Fair enough. About a couple of weeks later we’re out somewhere and he comes up in conversation (in reference to her past relationship with loserboy in comparison with bouqetboy) and I mentioned to her, in a joking tone, that she’s currently IN a longtime relationship (they’ve been together, it must be like 8-9 months or something like that) which she denies.

She informs me a couple of weeks later that she’s going off to an interstate capital city for a week with him during the school holidays. Again, I’m getting suspicious. They got back last night and I text-messaged her about going to the local craft market which she goes to often with me. I arrange to pick her up in the morning and when I get to her place, he’s there. She asks me if mind that he comes with us. I said no, and then jokingly, “it doesn’t look like I have a choice, does it?”. So we’re off to the market. He starts making annoying comments about my driving. It’s fine at first but he doesn’t stop. After the market he’s relatively annoying free. We get in the car and drive into a small town which has nice shops to look out. Somewhere in the car we start talking about bad singing (of which my best friend and I take great pleasure in ruining songs) and anyway he starts off singing, and I jokingly say, “I’m going to stop and you guys can walk home”. He then says “Ah, but we were just singing badly” (or something like that), “We don’t know what you’re like” at which I tersely reply, “No, [insert best friend’s name here] knows what I’m like. YOU don’t.”

Going by today’s activities, he assumes they’re a couple and he know everything, including all about me. She isn’t correcting him at all, just laughing along with it. Now quirky things what we (me and her) use to do is now being done by them. And then when I drop them off, we’re nearing her house and he starts again with the driving comments like “we’re gunna die!”. She must been getting annoyed by it too because she says to him, “Are you going to do that everytime we turn a corner or change gear?” to which I add, “Because it’s FUCKING ANNOYING.” Get to her house. She gets out, slams the door. No Goodbye or anything.

Now I don’t care that she’s excusing his behaviour, in fact, I’ve come to expect it of her. What really shits me is that she’s denying this relationship exists. YOU’RE HOLDING HANDS. YOU GO ON A WEEK HOLIDAY INTERSTATE. HE IS OVER AT YOUR HOUSE ALL THE FUCKING TIME. JUST ADMIT THE RELATIONSHIP TO YOURSELF, OK? IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? And don’t get me wrong, this has nothing to do with the fact that he’s 15 years her senior. (A man can be any age and STILL be a wanker). JUST ADMIT THAT YOU’RE A COUPLE. STOP DENYING IT BECAUSE WE CAN ALL BLOODY SEE WHAT’S HAPPENING.

Do I detect a faint whiff of jealousy here?

I don’t get what your gripe is really about. Is it that she is not 'fessing up to being in a ‘relationship’ when in your opinion she IS? Maybe she is still unsure herself about what she wants and how committed she wants to be. Until she works that out herself, she may not want to share that information with you. Your shittiness seems therefore out of place.

If it’s that the guy is a wanker, then rest assured that most friends reckon that their best friend’s boyfriends are wankers. (Nobody’s good enough for MY friend etc). You’ll have to save that one up until they split-up, when you can then say, with impunity, “I told ya so!” In the meantime, shut up. You’ll only create problems for yourself if you say anything now.

But it DOES sound like you have a dose of sour grapes about the relationship. Maybe that’s something you wanna look at instead of your friends motives/behaviours. Maybe…;j

Chandler and Monica all over again.

My point, obviously I didn’t make it clear enough, is that my friend is in denial about this relationship. **She refuses to say what it really is, even when asked. I am not jealous of him or her and him or whatever. I’m just frustrated that she is unable to admit it to me or even herself that she is clearly in a longterm relationship when that is exactly what she has been saying it isn’t.

Well, whatever. So your friend is being a bit silly.

You obviously needed to get that off your chest. That is what the Pit is for! :slight_smile:

Why?

Wasn’t that rather rude of you?

So you call an ex-boyfriend of hers (6 year relationship) ‘loserboy’.
And challenge her to admit she’s in another one - presumably so that you can criticise her choice again?

Why didn’t you just say (jokingly) ‘I suppose I’ll have to put up with your latest idiot boyfriend.’? :rolleyes:

Yes, it is annoying when people keep making comments (disguised as jokes).

See above.

As other posters have remarked, this looks like jealousy.

Perhaps you’ve upset her in some way?

I think it was pretty rude yourself the way you responded to his behavior in the car. And you’re surprised your friend slammed the door? Had it occurred to you that he was trying, however much you didn’t appreciate it, to break the ice or try not to seem aloof? Had it occurred to you that the reason he pretends as it could be said in order to try and be a bigger part of your friend’s life?

Christ, you seem so eager to vilify this poor bastard. Yeah, he doesn’t know you, but you don’t know him either. You shouldn’t read into anything he does until you do.

It doesn’t sound like she’s jealous, it sounds like she’s sick of her friend lying to her and everyone else. It’s like a girl I used to be friends with stepping up her wedding 4 months and then telling everyone, “Oh no, I’m not pregnant” when she was. No one would think any the less of her for being pregnant, but we all thought a lot less of her for lying about it.

Near as I can tell, this friend brings along an uninvited guest who proceeds to make an ass of himself. He’s being really annoying, and gets told that he’s being annoying, but the friend gets all pissy about it. This chick needs to grow up, admit that this is turning into a longer relationship than she’d really intended, and tell him not to be such an ass.

And she should open up and be honest with you because…?

You’re so supportive of her? You will refrain from judging her choice of boyfriends? You won’t talk about them behind their backs with your other friends?

The OP needs to grow up in a big way and as soon as possible.

Newsflash! This just in!

Her relationship is none of your damned business! MYOB, woman. I hope to God you’re still a teenager, because you are extremely immature. Learn to tend to your own affairs and let her tend to hers. If she’s lying when you ask her outright, stop asking. She obviously feels her relationships are HER business, not yours. You snooping in her flower cards and such just shows that she cannot trust you.

Zette

“MYOB?”

Mind you own business.

Not you, Czech, the OP :slight_smile:

It sounds like there are a few issues between you and your friend. Maybe you’re not prepared to share her during “your time” or maybe she just has lousy taste in men. Either way, until you figure out how to deal with her and her choices and suck it up, you may want to give her a little space and let her work it out on her own. Otherwise, you may end up losing your friend. Just MHO.

You know…no one’s ever gonna be good enough for your best friend. Ever. It’s just one of those things. However, as far as the supposed “relationship” goes, I think it’s best that you take her word for it. I mean, you can’t really determine what emotional ties or whatever are present; that’s up to her and the guy.

Now, no offense, but you sounded as though you were a bit catty towards your friend and her boyfriend. Not a lot, and I can see where there was some justification for what you said. Still, it exists.

Word of the wise (okay, word of the 19 year-old who isn’t necessarily the best at interpersonal relations but has found this word works well): treat your friends’ friends with a certain amount of respect. It solves a lot of problems down the road. Besides, after they break up (assuming they do…whatever; if he really is a “wanker” they probably will eventually), you get to bitch about him all you want. You can even pull a knife on him…well, okay, no you can’t. I did, but I was psychotic. Whatever. Just be civil to him. Life’ll be a fuck of a lot easier.

And get used to sharing your best friend. She doesn’t have your leash around her neck :).

Why would you open a personal note that wasn’t meant for you anyway? I think that is more fucked up than the whole OP.

I have zero respect for people who feel they must invade the privacy of another, especially for trivial crap.

Note: I can understand the rare occasion where opening someones mail, etc might mitigate a life or death situation.

The OP certainly doesn’t sound like that.

Yeah, MY new girlfriend’s friends all hate me and for no conceivable reason either.:frowning:

I think the OP really needs to back off.

too long, didn’t read, nothing to add but “Hi Everybody!”