Strongly worded advice you've disregarded.

[QUOTE=Student Driver]
I got “drop out” advice as a freshman as well, from a tenured professor. (And he said a lot more, nastier stuff-- he honestly reminded me of my abusive stepfather). Is this a common thing for students to experience? I thought it was kind of bizarre being told that by a teacher, but I guess it’s more normal than I imagined.

Anyway-- I busted my ass to prove the guy wrong. A+. And I’m a senior now, going for a math degree, and still 4.0. So, his advice-- I ignored it. (I also used reverse psychology on him, and forced myself to appear happier and more friendly the angrier he made me. After being called aside for a 10-minute screaming harangue, I’d finish by standing up, offering my hand for a handshake, and thanking him for the time spent with me.)
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Well, in my situation it was a little bit different, because I go to a ridiculous school where you don’t have exams, but you do have a end-of-the-semester evaluation panel type deal with all your professors, and at the end they ask “Should this student be invited back for next semester”, and the answer can easily be no even if you are passing all your classes. (It’s not as barbaric as it sounds, just weird.

But wandering into hijack land, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s becoming more common, as more students go to college. College has become something that, for most middle-class students at least, is just assumed, regardless of whether the person really wants to. (You should seen the looks I got sometime around 11th grade when I, the middle-class white chick in the honors program, said I wasn’t sure I wanted to go to college, at least not right away.)

Regarding my ex-wife, my best friend said, “Drop her like a hot rock.” I wish I’d listened.

Stop pointing out where your boss is violating policy, contradicting procedures and outright breaking the law.
Stop talking to your boss as an equal (ie, acting like we’re both Human).
Do what you’re told (even when it’s wrong).
Shut Up.
Do what you’re told (even when it’s illegal).
Do what you’re told (even when it’s dangerous).

:rolleyes:

To quote the Master: I do things my way and I pay a high price.
Marriage Counselor: Don’t marry her. She’s too damaged and she’ll make your life a living hell.

Wish I’d listened to that last one.

[QUOTE=NinjaChick]
Well, in my situation it was a little bit different, because I go to a ridiculous school where you don’t have exams, but you do have a end-of-the-semester evaluation panel type deal with all your professors, and at the end they ask “Should this student be invited back for next semester”, and the answer can easily be no even if you are passing all your classes. (It’s not as barbaric as it sounds, just weird.

But wandering into hijack land, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s becoming more common, as more students go to college. College has become something that, for most middle-class students at least, is just assumed, regardless of whether the person really wants to. (You should seen the looks I got sometime around 11th grade when I, the middle-class white chick in the honors program, said I wasn’t sure I wanted to go to college, at least not right away.)
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NinjaChick, that’s not Hampshire College, is it?

When my father was alive, he had to go to Florida every winter because of his heart problems. Before he left, he’d write me a depressive, tedious letter about what to do if he died while he was there: to the effect of “Life is hopeless, nothing ever works the way you want it to, you may as well give up now.” He always put in a part about selling the house because I was too dumb/unlucky/female to own/live in/maintain a house by myself.

He died in 1989, paralyzed with depression and self-inflicted guilt. I still live there, happily, blissfully, with my darling husband (married 13 years today!)

[QUOTE=Sigmagirl]
I still live there, happily, blissfully, with my darling husband (married 13 years today!)
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Cool! I believe a hearty “Bwahaha!” to be appropriate! :smiley:

Thank you!

Bwahaha!

[QUOTE=cupcake]
NinjaChick, that’s not Hampshire College, is it?
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Nope. St. John’s College, in Annapolis and Santa Fe.

[QUOTE=KlondikeGeoff]
In 1951 I decided to marry a Japanese women in Kyoto. My parents, several friends and the army chaplain all warned me in the most drastic tones not to do this. All professed to be free of prejudice, but told me I’d be one sorry guy if I did.

I did it anyway, and we’ve been married 56 years.
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My story exactly!

Um, except it was the early 1980s, a man, not Japanese (but Jewish; that’s got a ‘J’ so it’s sort of the same, right?), not Kyoto, no chaplain, and no friends objected to it. But the parents did, most strongly.

We just sent out invitations to our 25th anniversary party :slight_smile:

My favorite brother got married 4 weeks earlier than I, to a nice Catholic girl, family values much like my parents’, heartily approved of by both families… their divorce was final earlier this year. It saddens me greatly to “win” this “contest” but it does go to show families don’t know everything.

A previous boss advised me regarding a former employer: “If they promise you anything, get it in writing.”

I didn’t listen.

:shrugs: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Won’t be a third time.

Regards,
Shodan

About a year ago, from our divorce counselor: “Times of stress and change are when people have the most automobile accidents. For the next six months, neither of you should back up.”

Of course, now that I’ve said something about it, I’m sure I’ll have a smash-up.

I don’t think you should eat that.

Right again dear…urrrp!

I’ll have an order of “Don’t mix friendship/family and money.”

Three situations:
#1: bad. shoulda listened.
#2: remembered #1, took precautions, tempers ran high, but managed a peaceful resolution
#3: set boundaries, discussed, so far it’s working out well

[QUOTE=Linty Fresh]
My parents, my friends, my coworkers, and my grandfather (WWII vet, Normandy, the whole deal): Linty, do not join the army! My father actually stopped speaking to me for a week after I raised my right hand.

And all these years later I realize that they were absolutely right. If I’d known what I was getting myself into, I never would have done it in a thousand years. That said, I look at my wife, my new life doing something I like, my masters degree, living in Boston, my plans for the future–none of which would have been possible without the army–and I’m really glad I didn’t know what I was getting myself into. If ever there was a situation I walked into with my eyes wide shut . . .

Oh, and I’ve toughened up, I’ve learned to take care of myself, I’ve learned not to take shit from people, I’ve learned to find my way out of the woods, and so on and so forth . . . I’ve forgotten what it’s like to be bored. I’ve also forgotten what it’s like to be envious of other people. No, the army was the best mistake I’ve ever made. My most glorious fuck-up.
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[Small Hijack]Just wondering, and you don’t have to get too specific if you don’t want to, but why was it so bad? Did you have to fight in a war? And how has the Army made you less bored? [/Small Hijack]

So far the strongest advice I keep ignoring is from people telling me not to become a lawyer. We will see how that turns out in a couple of years.

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DO NOT DIVE WITH A COLD.
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I did that for my final test dive. I lucked out, in that all I got was a nosebleed and some vertigo. Still, DO NOT DIVE WITH A COLD!

[QUOTE=Lakai]
[Small Hijack]Just wondering, and you don’t have to get too specific if you don’t want to, but why was it so bad? Did you have to fight in a war? And how has the Army made you less bored? [/Small Hijack]
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Well, it wasn’t that bad. I didn’t fight in a war fortunately; my time was up long before 9/11. The thing is that my decision to join the army wasn’t thought out that well. It was based on a total misapprehension of my abilities and my interests in life. I did make an OK soldier, but I wasn’t Sergeant fucking Rock, and I had to work my ass off just to be average. I found out my limitations the hard way, and I found them out quickly. In addition, the bullshit level in the military was incredible. I know that people read that and go, “Well, duh!” but really, you can’t imagine the level of bureaucracy and idiotic regulations unless you’ve experienced it for yourself.

I don’t blame the army, of course. No one put a gun to my head and made me join, and as I indicated above, quite a few good people close to me tried to talk me out of it. I consider the military to be an honorable institution, and anyone who can put in 20 years in any MOS, especially combat arms has my unqualified respect. It’s hard for me all these years later to remember exactly why I signed up. I guess I was bored after college, unwilling to consider what I had majored in as a career, and looking for adventure. In addition, I had recently ended a long term romantic relationship and realized that the life I had lived from high school through college was for all intents and purposes over. It was time for a fresh start, and starts don’t come much fresher than the military. As far as the thought of combat–which looked like a distinct possibility even back then, what with North Korea acting up, I wouldn’t say that I didn’t think about getting fucked up, but at the time, for the reasons I listed above, I don’t think I cared one way or another. Hell, I’m just glad I didn’t go with my first instinct and join the Marines!

So much for the bad stuff (and again, it wasn’t that bad). The reason I’m no longer bored has to do with the fact that in the military, you find out exactly who you are and what you can do, and you find that out pretty damned quickly. It wasn’t like college, where I could bullshit myself and the profs into thinking that I was better than I really was. There’s no room for that in the army. There’s no place to hide. If you’re stupid or forgetful or lazy, that’s going to come out. If you put on weight easily, that’s going to come out, too. If you have problems getting along with people, you had better believe that’s going to be revealed, too. The downside is that it’s a pain in the ass to learn all that quickly. The upside is that at least you learn. By the time I got through AIT and reported to my first duty station in Korea, I knew exactly what I was good at and what I wasn’t. I knew that I was a hard worker and somewhat intelligent, and I had worked through and overcome problems that had plagued me throughout my life before the army. I also knew that there was no way I was ever going to be Airborne Ranger or SF, and I could kiss off my dreams of becoming a cop after the army, too. I realized in the army that I was a geek, for better or for worse.

It’s hard to explain, but I guess to simplify things, I learned how to be an innovator and a problem solver, and now even if there’s nothing to do in front of me, I can still interest myself in thinking through problems. That’s a big help in life, and it’s also a boredom killer. Also, I got interested in languages and started teaching myself Korean. By the end of my year in Korea, I was conversant and could even beat out a couple of the linguists in our battalion. I’ve since kept up with it, and now I can read online newspapers in Korean, although I wouldn’t consider myself fluent.

Whew, I’m afraid I started rambling there. Sorry if I put you to sleep. If you don’t want to wade through all of that, I’ll just sum it up as follows: I went into the army praying for a new life and insight into who I was (I was a theist at the time), and I’ll be goddamned if the army didn’t deliver. It was a difficult, expensive path to a fresh start, and I can’t say as I liked all the lessons I learned about myself, but I gave the military my all like I promised, and it gave me a new life like it promised. No hard feelings.

And don’t even think about following my example. Different time, different army, different world. There are better ways to find yourself.

More strongly worded advice to ignore.

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Regards,
Shodan

[QUOTE=Linty Fresh]
…It was a difficult, expensive path to a fresh start…
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Expensive? I saved up a fortune in the Army.

[QUOTE=Gala Matrix Fire]
Expensive? I saved up a fortune in the Army.
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I was talking about sacrifices, not money.

[QUOTE=Tully Mars]
I got that very same advice in my first microprocessor class. I chose to ignore it. I’ve been working with microprocessors now for over 18 years.

The difference in my case, NinjaChick, was that the advice didn’t come from a professor who had seen 40 years of freshmen. It came from a first year professor whose previous experience was that of a perpetual grad student.

I busted my ass in that class for the rest of the semester (and barely passed) just to prove the bastard wrong.
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Freshman Chemistry - The first class, the prof gave a diagnostic test. I got a D. He said , “If you got less than a B, drop the course”. I didn’t, I worked my tail off and ended up with a B. Chem II I got an A…