Placenta CA where life begins and ends. :rolleyes: WTH did this person off herself in school? I feel bad for the kids that found her. I’ve heard Hanging corpses can be particularly hideous.
So she was found in Placenta with the cord wrapped around her neck?
LOL I had exactly the same thought. It’s terrible but true.
Placenta, CA?
Also, my favorite teacher ever killed himself at school, but he did it during a break so there weren’t many/any students around. IIRC a custodian found him.
For the sake of fighting ignorance, but at the risk of ruining the joke, the name of the city is Placentia: note the ‘i’.
One of my dad’s best friend’s committed suicide. My dad, who had taken care of him for the better part of a year, found him. He’d shot himself.
I often wonder why his friend didn’t call 911 prior to offing himself. It sure would have saved my dad the trauma of finding him with his face blown off. And he’s a grown adult. It really sucks that a teacher would traumatize her students like that.
P.S. One of the ONLY things in OJ Simpson’s favor was the fact that his ex-wife’s corpse was left where his kids could find it. Killing your ex-wife in a fit of jealous rage is bad enough. Allowing your kids to find her bloody and dead body? There’s another dimension of hell for someone who’d do that.
I read a news story one time about some young elementary students who went to the principal because their elderly (nun) teacher put her head down on the desk to take a nap and didn’t wake up.
You meant “where his kids could not find it”, right?
By “thing in OJ’s favor” I interpreted PunditLisa to mean “argument for why he wasn’t the killer”: if he had been, he (one hopes!) wouldn’t have left the corpse for his kids to find.
I went for the joke. Although, I did a double take when I first saw the city’s name. Then I looked closer and saw the “i”. They must get a lot of ribbing.
For their pleasure of course.
You’re looking for a rational reason for an irrational act?
Yes I understand it’s a mental illness, but people who commit suicide are selfish & not thinking of others. They are not thinking of the person who discovers them, nor the EMS & police who have to see it, nor the friends & family who have to live not only the loss but with the torment of “If only I…”
Do the two students who found her get A’s for the semester?
The parents of the kids may be/could be contacting a lawyer even as we type this. Could you imagine the settlement a school district would be willing to make for trauma like this? There goes the new uniforms for the football team.
Can’t there be rational elements to an overall irrational decision?
Going on what I said in response to the quote above, is this always the case? How do we know they aren’t thinking of others? Are we simply taking the highest profile suicides or the messiest and/or most obviously self-centered ones and ascribing similar selfish motives and thoughts to all suicides? I would think many people who end up committing suicide do so after a long, long time pondering the decision. During all that time, they’ve given much thought to how it would take place, how they would be found and the reactions of their loved ones upon learning.
I think saying all people who suicide are selfish and not thinking of others is not true. I think a better way to look at it is maybe like balancing a scale. The feelings and love for those in their life constitute the weight on one side of the scale, while the pain, suffering and horror of the life they live constitutes the weight on the other side of the scale. When that weight of the pain of existence outweighs the weight of responsibility a person feels for the feelings, emotional well being and love for the loved ones in their life, suicide is the only viable alternative.
There is a movie called “Monsieur Lazhar” that came out a couple years ago about a female elementary school teacher who hanged herself in her classroom and children found her. The Monsieur Lazhar of the title is her replacement. It’s a very quiet movie and can’t say it’s happy or anything, with such a bleak subject, but in a strange way it is inspiring, how the new teacher is with the children. I saw it streaming on Netflix a while back, not sure if it’s still available or not.
For the Placentia teacher to do this so publicly and where children would likely find her seems to suggest a lot of anger or resentment. Or maybe not, who knows about such things. Hope the adults around the kids provide the support and therapy they need.
ETA: Just looked it up, and the movie I cite above was actually nominated that year (2012) for an Academy Award for best foreign language film. It is French Canadian.
Speaking of movies, there’s a very old German film called “Der blaue Engel” (“The Blue Angel” in English). The premise is that a respected high school teacher runs off with a stripper (I’m leaving a lot out here), realizes what a joke he’s become, and returns to his old classroom to die in the place he felt most at home.
I think some people kill themselves where they felt they were most comfortable.
There’s going to be a reason, even if it’s an irrational one.
Often times when contemplating suicide, it’s common to think of doing it in a way that causes the most drama for everyone you are bitter or angry with. I think that plays into the public nature of it.
Or maybe there was no real thought put into the location, and she just impulsively did it wherever it happened that “she couldn’t take it anymore.”
I had an english and history teacher in middle school, who, while I was in high school, had her husband call her on the phone during one of her lessons in the middle of the school day, and killed himself while she begged him not to.
There’s no “i” in suicide.