Stupid anit gay marrige dolts

The BBQ Pit
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There I was, sitting in this nice little bar right near where I work, when the TV goes from the end of the Lakers game to the news. Top Story: Gay marriage.

Now I make it a point not to discuss politics in the bar. The folks I know there are nice, decent people who tend to know lots of dirty jokes. We drink, we laugh, we go home. End of story.

Well, it turns out that most of my “friends” from this bar are enormously against gay marriage. “I’ve been married for 30 years and I take this whole mess to be insulting. They’re taking away how special marriage is. Hell, I might as well go marry a goat.” This asinine statement was met by a round of applause from the other folks at the bar.

Now, I was (am) about half in the bag, and I knew it would be best for me not to say anything, so I just turned away from the conversation and concentrated on the task at hand (beer). Unfortunately, Mr. Asshole decided to ask me how I felt, because he knew I work in theatre and I “hang around with fags all the time.” I’m just going to say that again. I “hang around with fags all the time.”

What the fuck. How can these people that I know, I joke with, I drink with all be so fucking stupid. How dare they equate my friend’s feelings of love with their partners with them marrying goats. Where the fuck do they get off calling my friends “fags.” Fuck them.

And you know what? Fuck me too, 'cause I didn’t have the balls to face down a bunch of ignorant fucks in a bar and stand up for my friends. No, I just had to mumble something about how gay folks marrying didn’t really threaten them at all and how I needed to go home.

I’ve been so happy, seeing all the news reports about different counties trying to make things right, that I guess I just forgot that the majority of Americans don’t want gay marriage to happen. And even though it makes me sick, I just don’t know what to do about it.

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Find a new bar? Forget about what the majority of Americans think, and concentrate on what reasonable and educated Americans think.

The rest will come to think as we do in time. Society progresses, no matter how strong the voices of reaction.

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You didn’t stand up for gay marrage rights (even though it sounds like you are very Pro on the issue) but you also didn’t join in with their ignorance -like so many do at times like that. Peer pressure, join the mob type shit. Don’t let that get you down.

Our news station was funny. I’m in Portland so of course all the local stations are buzzing with, at last, having local news fit to report. They do the regular bit and visit the courthouse, interview some people in a bar, ect, ect. Then, they throw out a real spitball. I guess they couldn’t find any interesting anti-gay marrage people in Portland direct and are forced to visit some rural podunk bowling alley to see how people there feel about gay marrage. heh heh. Rural bowling alleys are never quite the hub of gay activisim one might expect.

Hey there cowboy, spit out that wad of chaw before you get on them there fancy pants television news show. OK, it wasn’t that bad. They did find one person bowling who agreed with letting gay people marry “so they can have the same benefits as everyone else”. Cheers to him.

They did show some guy on the news at the courthouse holding a sign with, yup, you guessed it, a BIBLE VERSE, shouting “go back into the closet you homo. blah-blah-blah homo. Something something HOMO.” But outside of him there were only a small handful of anti’s at the courthouse. One got hauled away for some reason which chipped the number to about 4 I think. :smiley:

Look at it this way, in a few years those guys in the bar will be the 2000’s version of the rednecks talking about letting “niggers drink out of OUR drinking fountians.” Too bad they fail to realize it.

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Mudd’s fantasy parting words:

“You know, I don’t hang around with fags all the time. I’ve been spending a lot of time with boorish, stupid assholes, too. What was I thinking?”

…and then off to find a new bar.

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You know, with people this ignorant, I can’t help but wonder if they simply have never considered the possibility that homosexuals are people just like themselves, and might even respond to this being pointed out to them. It might be worth a shot.

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Nah. Heck I’m gay and sometimes I don’t even bother speaking up. No one’s obliged to fight for what’s right all the time, no matter how strongly we feel. Sometimes we don’t have the snappy words or the idiot-proof arguments, or we don’t want to cause a fuss, or we’re just too goddamn tired after a long day to fight. It doesn’t make you a bad person not to stand up for what you believe in all the time–just a human, with limited resources.

Besides, your friends weren’t at the bar. They didn’t need defending, and you weren’t going to change anyone’s mind anyway. I think it’s perfectly understandable to save your energy and your fight for when it really counts.

Leave the bigots to wallow in their ignorance. Fuck 'em.

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This story has prompted me to develop my own easy to remember argument for gay marriage:

Me: Are these people taking away your wife and children?
Dolt: No.
Me: Then why the fuck does it make any damn difference to you if they marry?

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I’ve given up trying to fight against people that are against gay marriage because theirreasons for being against it are simply un-fight-against-able, to wit: (1) Jebus don’t like homos and/or (2) it’s just icky.

Might as well try to nail jello to the wall.

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Thanks for the responses so far. I don’t really have anything else to say, except I’m kind of bummed that I have to find a new bar now and I’m still shocked that I’ve been hanging around with such flaming homophobes. What a bunch of dicks.

Also, if a mod happens to come by with a free second and wants to fix the typo in my title, I’d appreciate it. Thanks

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You didn’t do anything wrong. Peer pressure is hard to turn the tide against, and it’s not really your fight. I don’t think you should feel bad at all.

I would have started a fight, which would probably turn into a brawl. But I’m a jerk about this issue and have a very short fuse. I am 3/4 Irish, after all.

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I get tired of arguing, too. I feel I should stick up for my friends (a major portion of whom are gay), but I’m worn down by it all. So lately I’ve been just shaking my head and rolling my eyes when the subject is brought up and someone starts to talk about how it ‘threatens marriage’. Then I feel bad for not taking up the fight.

I can’t imagine how someone who has more of a stake in this (someone who is gay) is able to handle the constant battle for equal treatment - in all areas, not just the right to marry.

I like Cheesesteak’s response. Short and to the point. Maybe I’ll use that in the future.

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I think some are like that - if only life were a message board ;).
I often find myself not standing up for hate-filled opinions on gay people, or completely ignorant opinions on various other issues (race, asylum seekers). At least you said something.