Stupid bathroom incident of the day.

[Slash1972]

@VinylTurnip

It’s quite enough that the bathroom incident is stupid. Your amplification is not required.

Thanks for the comeuppance. I’ll give it the weight it deserves next time I’m on the fence as to whether to amplify a story about a stupid person or not.

[Slash1972]

@Left_Hand_of_Dorkness

Your levels of sarcasm are either too much for me or really dumb, I can’t figure out which :).

Why can’t it be both?

[Slash1972]

@Smapti

Pretty sure that was sarcasm, in that that’s exactly what the anti-trans people think, or at least pretend to think, is what happens when transgender bathroom rights are acknowledged; men are going to hang out in ladies’ rooms for the sole purpose of committing perversions, will tell any authority figure who questions them that “I identify as a woman right now so I have a right to be here”, and said authorities will shrug helplessly and allow the perversions to continue.

I.e. the “I’d have done that all the time when I was in high school!” assertation.

yay! Somebody gets it!!

[oft_wears_hats]

@Left_Hand_of_Dorkness

There are several things we don’t know:

1. Is this person sincerely trans, or is this person trying to find a loophole in law/policy?
2. Did this person actually engage in illegal behavior? (It’s been alleged, but we don’t know all the facts).

Here’s what we do know:
3) Target’s trans-inclusive policy presented no impediment to arresting someone for alleged inappropriate behavior.

For 1 and 2, we should wait to get the facts. For 3, we already see confirmation that trans-friendly policies don’t leave women unprotected from pervs.

I agree completely. But for #3, I’m just saying that anti-transgender people aren’t going to make that conclusion. It’s a logical conclusion, but they’re just going to hold this up as an example that trans people are perverts and don’t deserve to be a protected class.

@running_coach

The article said he already identified as a female including a female version of his birth name.
Though I have no idea how that was determined. Unless he has ID in that name.

Ah, I missed that bit. Hopefully we’ll find out more soon. I really hope that this person isn’t being falsely accused by someone who figured that was the only way to get them arrested in a trans-friendly Target. That does seem like the natural next step for transphobes as trans rights start to become codified into law. With the ubiquity of cell phones, it would be too easy to point at someone using their phone in a restroom or changing room and accuse them of taking pictures.

[Trinopus]

@Slash1972

yay! Somebody gets it!!

Me too. I thought it was a good quip.

[Valgard]

How about this one?

Playboy’s PMOY takes a photo of another woman in the shower at the gym, posts it to Snapchat with an insulting comment and now has to face the consequences.

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Playboy-Model-Dani-Mathers-Blasted-for-Using-8380139.php

So I guess we’d better ban women from the women’s changing rooms or something.

[Slash1972]

That’s just girls being girls

(Hope I don’t get chastised by Vinyl Turnip for amplifying this story)

[Cinnamon_Imp]

You mean “a woman being a vile human being”, right? Pretty sure the model and the lady are both over 18.

[Ludovic]

I hereby manfather in the term as an obvious turn of the phrase “boys will be boys”.

[Valgard]

@Cinnamon_Imp

You mean “a woman being a vile human being”, right? Pretty sure the model and the lady are both over 18.

The model is and I hope for her sake that the victim is as well, otherwise whatever legal trouble she’s already in could become considerably worse.

[Rick_Kitchen]

Are there gender neutral bathrooms in the FOX studios?