Why the fuck does anyone respond the adaher? Every single post he’s made in this latest discussion is his unproven conjecture or just plain wrong.
I like suing the government better. At least then justice is being done and the government is short of money because of it’s own misconduct.
That’s his entire posting history. If anyone needed a negative paragon of human intelligence and reason, he’d be the guy. I had him on my Ignore List for a long time, but I removed a bunch of people a few months back. I should probably just go ahead and add him back.
The Government is not a singular being of intelligence and self-ness. It is a group of a few million people hired to do things we need the government to do.
Perhaps this error in your reason is why your thoughts about the government are as ignorant and foolish as they are.
You initially claimed that UK citizens could not sue the NHS. When that was shown to be incorrect, your new standard is that citizens should be able to sue the government into “near bankruptcy” to redress grievances. Well, you’ve won. I don’t think I can come up with a cite to prove that an individual citizen of the UK can bring the nation to its knees if he or she receives poor medical care. If a doctor in Sheffield misdiagnosis a child with the flu, I would have to presume that the UK will continue to function as a nation state. This, admittedly, is a very stupid liberal idea. My hat’s off to you, sir.
The SDMB is very tolerant of right-wing idiots. They even have their own thread for “stupid liberal ideas.” Yet they just turn this thread into another
Right-wing idiocy as performance art
Thank you, Chimera for disposing of this right-wing idiocy. It’s the taxpayers who are punished, but right-wing dolts can’t think that far.
This cognitive disorder seems ubiquitous among U.S. “conservatives.” The Veteran’s Administration is underfunded so has delays? GOP solution? Punish the VA by reducing its funding further. :smack:
We thought adaher might be growing up: He seems smart enough to oppose Trump. But it turns out his brain remains empty of any inkling of the “social contract.”
That whole ‘cut their budget to punish them for people cheating’ thing is hot and heavy on the right wing, but it is such a fundamentally flawed, incredibly stupid and outright ludicrous way of doing anything.
Some of these jacktards believe that if we just cut social security hard enough, the government will be “forced” to kick the cheaters off the rolls.
The problem with that logic is that you’re deliberately harming everyone who legitimately gets and needs that social security because you have some stupid assed, completely unfounded idea that the government knows who is cheating and is deliberately refusing to remove them from the rolls.
Honestly, if you believe that, you should be demanding that your congressman turn over that information to congress and the public and remove those people right now.
But you can’t, and you won’t, because there are no such lists and your congressman would laugh in your face at the very idea, even as s/he likely continues to imply that the idea is true for your support in gutting social programs and giving more tax cuts to the wealthy. Even as this nation approaches robber baron levels of wealth disparity that will eventually cause a social backlash.
If you were sincere in wanting cheaters off the rolls, then you would actually increase the budget for enforcement and investigations, not slash them.
I don’t think they believe there really are cheaters.
No, many of them do. I had a conversation on FB with a friend about this and actually turned his opinion based on that argument.
I recommend using it any time you have a friend or relative who rants about welfare cheats.
I’m sitting in the UK reading adaher’s *unique *interpretation of the story and desperate attempt to somehow make this a “liberal” thing (although I’d place strong odds on the surgeon in question being heavily conservative - they usually are - and carving your initials on someone’s liver still wins the Most Stupid Idea prize in this story), and it left “Wrong” almost immediately, went straight through “Not Even Wrong” without slowing down, has gone deep into “Outright Delusional” and is approaching “Dude, Is Everything Okay At Home?” territory.
Incidentally, one of the current reasons for the doctor shortage? Brexit and other immigration restrictions. There are many EU nationals working as medical staff in the NHS, and many of them are leaving again and applications to come have fallen dramatically. Guess which side of the political fence is responsible for this? (Hint: not the left).
But of course this would hardly be the first time conservatives had fucked something up and then blamed the resultant problems on liberals.
Your signature reminded me of George Carlin’s perspective on politics.
Have we mentioned Chelsea Manning’s political ambitions yet?
Look, Chelsea - we get it. Yes, you’re a goddamn American hero, fighting for truth, justice, apple pie, motherhood, Chevrolet and the American Way, yadda yadda yadda. Now would you kindly fuck off? We don’t need your latest desperate attention-getting stunt to distract from trying to keep the country from becoming even more of a shithole.
P.S. You’re not fooling anyone. We know you dance in front of your mirror pretending to be Taylor Swift. Just…stop it.
Oh, that hurts my head. Wikileaks helped put the Russpublican party in power in this country and Manning wants to run as a D? Yeah, we need more cognitive dissonance.
This is another Cindy Sheehan situation. Hey, I hate the fact that Democratic Party isn’t liberal enough so I’m going to challenge one of the most liberal Democrats in a primary! That’ll teach 'em!
In fairness to both Sheehan and Manning though, both have been through hell and aren’t all right mentally or emotionally. Manning’s problems seem to have been lifelong.
This Vox article isn’t terribly stupid, but the central thesis of it kinda is:
“Black women aren’t America’s cleanup crew”.
Okay, fine. But to portray this as some kind of harmful stereotype, as if racist Americans have always thought that black women should be President, is silly. If belief in “Magical Negro” tropes makes Americans want to elect African-Americans to the Presidency, it’s not exactly a crisis.
Who the fuck is Derrick Clifton? Does he help set national policy? Does the Democratic Party ask him for his positions on important matters? Does he serve as a prominent legislator somewhere? Head a major think tank?
Or is he just some random schmoe with an opinion?
It’s Vox, which at least in my opinion is a very influential news analysis site. And a valuable one, although occasionally they have dumb articles like that one.
CNN, a site which I’m sure you’ll agree is prominent, is not happy with workplace enforcement of immigration laws:
The article manages to maintain minimum standards of objectivity, but the clear message in there is, “I9 audits are bad, they make immigrants lose their jobs”.
In other words, you’re desperate to find something you can label a liberal idea because there aren’t nearly enough.
Meanwhile, the Republican thread is stuffed full of Congresscritters, Governors, state legislators and high level party officials with ideas that push the boundaries of idiocy.
Wasn’t that the original point of this thread? 
Actually, I’d put prominent journalists and websites ahead of state legislators on the influence scale. Even Vox these days is more important to the national debate than state legislators.
But sure, I have no problem admitting that the crazy infects the GOP a lot worse than it does the Democrats. Part of that is that the Democratic Party is run by elites these days, and they have the power to exclude nutbars. The Republican party is more grassroots. The situations used to be reversed.