Stupid liberal idea of the day

I noticed when I moved to the northeast that the the “Welcome To …” signs on the highway had the current governor’s names on them. Always seemed like a waste of money to have to change them whenever someone new was elected. But I’m pretty sure I’ve seen them with both Republican and Democrat names on them, so it’s a non-partisan waste and not a strictly liberal idea.

I’ve lived here 40 years, the ‘Open for Business’ sign was screwed on 8 years ago by Walker, it’s now removed and replaced with ‘Tony Evers Governor’.

He’s a liberal and it’s stupid.

Well what do you suggest be done with those screw holes?

Wood putty.

It’s stupid, but the idea didn’t originate with Evers.

Yeah, I mean, there are countless states and cities that have “Welcome To” signs. The fact that this is even an issue is… weak even when compared to the overall weak stuff that shows up in this thread all the time.

I happen to like this sign.

But note that that sign also has the Mayor’s name at the bottom. Like Robot said, many states put the Governor’s name on their Welcome signs. It’s free publicity for the Governor, and paid for by the taxpayers of the state.

And a continuing expense; every time a new Governor is elected, taxpayers have to pay for changing all these signs at every border of the state. Would be better for the taxpayers if they didn’t do this, just had something about the state, like (for Minnesota) "Land of 10,000 Lakes’. But it’s hard to change this once it’s started.

Is this where this thread and message board have gone? Can we not see anything for what it is anymore?

Can a racist remark from a Democrat even be possible if others from other political stripes said it years ago as well?

I grew up in Washington. I didn’t have a lot of occasions to travel out of state, but from what I recall the signs just said “Welcome to Oregon”, or “Entering Washington”. It wasn’t until I was in my 30s and moved to the northeast that I saw “Welcome to Massachusetts, Paul Cellucci, Governor”. I thought it was pointless at the time and I still do; residents of the state should already know who’s the governor, and visitor don’t care. And it’s inevitable that they’ll have to be changed, with time and expense involved.

But I remember being surprised by it. It’s common practice where I am now, but I don’t expect people in the rest of the country to know that. I pointed it out in the spirit of fighting ignorance.

I think most of us agree it’s a wasteful practice. But it isn’t a “liberal idea”, which is the point. It’s just a common bit of non-partisan political puffery.

Y’all want a stupid liberal idea? Here’s a fuckin’ doozy.

He’s not sorry about this and refuses to apologize. He doesn’t see a problem with his actions bolstering a republican house candidate in the midterms. In other words, Biden is completely detached from the political reality of America today and fundamentally unprepared to deal with politics as it currently exists.

With any luck, this completely pushes Biden out of the running in 2020. I’d say he should be primaried, but he’s probably resigning within the next few terms anyways.

So in other words he spoke kindly of a man he honestly admires instead of bashing him simply because he’s a member of another political party.

Biden no longer holds any elective office to be primaried or to resign from; he resigned from the Senate in 2009 after being elected Vice President, and of course he hasn’t been Vice President since January 20, 2017.

Yeah, that’s my take on it as well. If you criticize Biden for this, you’re basically advocating for tribalism over democracy.

He campaigned for a member of the republican party in 2018. And not a never-trumper, either. Upton isn’t some hard partisan scumbag like Gohmert or King, but the reality is, he’s a republican in the era where the head of the republican party is Donald Trump. There is no such thing as a good republican. There’s only bad, worse, and nazi (and it took them about a decade to throw out the guy who is loudly and proudly the latter). Any “good republican” has since left the party, because even if there were something worth salvaging, it cannot be salvaged while the party is led by McConnell and Trump.

But even beyond that, this ignores the reality of modern politics. The democrats needed to win the house in november. Not doing so would have continued to leave us with no checks on the Trump administration and no way to address any of the many pressing issues that leaves us. If the republicans keep the house, we’re not getting investigations into the Trump administration. We’re probably seeing the end of the Muller probe. We can forget about any action on climate change, the single most crucial issue of our time. In 2018, the democrats needed a win for the sake of the country. And they got one… But Biden decided to speak up for the opposition. And he was paid $200,000 to do so.

Fuck him.

And fuck this take, too. It is not “tribalism over democracy” to recognize that the current republican party is an aberration, that it retaining power is a catastrophe, and that you basically cannot be a good person while simultaneously supporting the Trump administration. It’s just the truth.

Whoops, I thought he was in the senate. Don’t know how I got that wrong, mea culpa.

I thought the SLIOTD was going to be “Biden campaigns for a Republican after receiving $200,000 from him via a back channel”.

In the middle of an election, he could have chosen to say nothing.

This is likely disqualifying (not that I wanted Biden anyway - too old, and has baggage issues - which is going to be a problem for anyone with any length of public service, but particularly for Biden because he has been around for more than one change of party emphasis).

Settle down, guy.

However dumb a liberal idea might be, it’s still smarter than the smartest conservative idea.

When I see something as dumb as this sign-gate and I have to look check to ensure that Clothahump is still banned.