Yeah, he’s doing a heck of a job, that’s why Democrats are attacking him in campaign ads:
That’s always been his problem. You guys keep claiming he’s some kind of Eisenhower Republican, yet on most issues he can’t unify his caucus, much less reach out to Republicans.
If he’s bent over backwards as much as you claim, then how come he can’t even appease his own more conservative party members?
When it comes to analyzing the character of a President, there are no facts. Opinion is what matters. And SDMB is way out of step with the general public on this issue.
Until you don’t like the facts. The fact is, Obama has made no attempt to change politics, or the way government works. He ran on change and then governed as a typical Democrat.
The public sees things clearly. SDMB is turning into a bastion of ignorance and dead enders on this issue.
Not honest, not competent, bad on nearly all of the issues, and generally unpopular. And I would be shocked if you were actually ignorant of this. If you are, that says you get too much of your political news right here, where you’d be shielded from such unpleasant realities.
Thanks for the enlightenment. Until now, I had no idea it was typical for Democrats to ignore their party’s ideas in favor of adapting the Republicans’ (as in Obama’s approach to health care).
You can comfort yourself all you want with such pablum, but the reality is that he couldn’t even get all the Democrats to support ACA in the House. If Obama isn’t winning over conservative Democrats, he’s not trying.
He tried to reach out and govern from the middle, for quite a long time. He should have given it up sooner.
A typical Democrat was change from the past 8 years.
The public is all over the place, and opinions change year to year and even month-to-month sometimes.
As far as US politics, that’s you. You’re the one who has been mostly wrong on the facts. The SDMB community at large has a pretty decent track record in predicting how elections will turn out over the last handful of years.
That the ACA passed at all was a miracle, and a ‘big fucking deal’. It required a Gordian knot of compromise, which has been the cause of many of its problems (and even so, it’s largely accomplishing its main goal in reducing the number of uninsured).
But you can’t call it something Republicans should have supported, or an attempt at compromising with Republicans, when they couldn’t even get Blue Dogs to vote for it in the HOuse, and in the Senate, only through rank bribery.
A true attempt at compromise would have not only roped in the conservative Dems, but Olympia Snowe as well.
So either OBama wasn’t trying, or he’s just that incompetent. And now he’s in the position of having conservative Dems spend more time attacking him than their Republican opponents.
I find it mildly amusing (if far too typical) that you consider simple facts “pablum.”
Of course as friend adaher said…
Although I do find it hard to fathom why adaher felt the need to include the first clause. Presidential character is hardly the only situation where he finds reality too inconvenient.
YOu have a strange concept of facts. The oft-cited factoid that ACA was a Republican idea is pure nonsense, but one that Democrats have talked themselves into believing. But the proof is in who voted for it: liberal Democrats. Conservative Democrats mostly stayed away from it.
That would imply, if one was interested in actually getting at the facts, that the Democrats had put things into the law that fundamentally changed it’s Republican nature, despite maintaining the outward form of a Republican bill.
And of course, a moderate Democrat wouldn’t find himself under fire by members of his own party so that they could save their own skins in the next election. He’s specifically under fire for actions favored by the liberal base which don’t play well in the heartland.