On the other hand, no teeth.
I don’t want to do anything to Hasty, I want to do it to Mary Jean.
Fuck.
Report: FCC chair to push for complete repeal of net neutrality
Yes, and they made it so insanely complicated. They really, really, really did not give a fuck about hearing from us.
We are going to pay dearly for this.
And on a side note, if there is one asshole in the world I wanna punch, it’s Pai.
Great. I look forward to paying for 256Mbit DSL so that each page of the SDMB takes only two minutes to load. On a good day.
If AT&T’s top loons are praising a decision, that implies that it’s monstrously bad.
How exactly would such an act affect big non-ISP businesses? They can’t ALL get sweetheart deals or make their own ISP.
Your ISP will decide what gets to you quickly and what gets lower priority. An ISP that has a cable/satellite arm will want to throttle hulu and netflix to “encourage” their subscribers to use their service. But, as the situation progresses, you might want to browse frys and best buy for a new TV, but if one is paying your ISP for priority, you will lose patience with the other because it loads too slowly. Hence, non-ISP businesses will end up being shaken down by the ISPs in order to stay competitively accessible.
Of course, when it gets to NBC vs. Fox, neither one better publish anything negative about your ISP or they might get blocked altogether. Or BigVend might pay your ISP to throttle bigvendsucks.org. The possibilities are disturbing. And probable.
You misspelled “dead fucking certain”.
Yeah, but there is a poster on here who mistakenly believes this will improve his video conferencing latency. So there’s that.
I’ve noticed that there’s no minimum cerebral capacity rule for messageboard membership…
When come back, punch Pai.
Not quite what I asking; that stuff I’m already aware of.
What I was wondering was, do major companies all have their own ISP? It made sense, at least for tech companies, but I really didn’t know whether, say, the New York Times and McDonalds had their own.
It also made me wonder if the ISPs could and would use their powers over transmission regardless to extort money from industries for their use of the internet in business. “Sorry, use of VPN to connect to home will result in a bill.”
Additional questions: what “progress” were ISPs making towards internet dystopia before these rules came about? And if ISPs throttle based on content, will they be considered content providers, or de facto responsible for the content they let through unthrottled?
Who’s going to be able to prove the throttling or lack thereof?
Sure, it would be nice to think they’d refrain from throttling for fear of being subject to lawsuits (based on being held responsible for unthrottled content). But practically speaking, I can’t see how that would work.
At least we’ll all be able to head over to /r/The_Donald for super-fast-loading pages. We’ll be able to express all the opinions we express here, as long as they are sufficiently worshipful of the Dear Leader. Won’t that be fun!
The ISP that matters is yours, because that is the one that determines what you can reach. And not all ISPs are quite what they seem. My best friend was suddenly not able to send me e-mail because her ISP was using a large service that my ISP had blacklisted because it was a major spam relay. The obfuscated structure of the internet is apparently quite a bit more complicated than most of us even begin to realize.
It’s worth noting that most of the major ISPs have already been accused by large numbers of people of throttling certain content, in particular torrent traffic and Netflix. They usually just take the official position that they aren’t doing it, and only knock it off when they get large amounts of bad publicity.
Once net neutrality is axed it’s guaranteed they’ll all do it, admit they do it if pressed, and shrug their shoulders and say “Everyone else is doing it, and it’s legal. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to subscribe to our service. Monopoly you say? Not at all… you could always switch to dialup.”
Who knew that an internetwork of billions of computers could be so complicated?
Anyone with the right tools. I assume you’ve never used traceroute (Linux/Mac/other Unix) or tracert (Windows)? There are other tools that let you see other connectivity details. Used from hosts distributed across the net you can get a pretty full connectivity picture.
Perhaps this belongs elsewhere, but, Nebraska. They were working on routing Keystone XL, and this was observed
which is kind of troubling in light of the recent large spill in SD.
(emphasis in the original document, not added)
It’s just a series of tubes!
Tubes or not tubes, that is the question…