Martin_Hyde:
Subway has divided all the territories in which it operates into markets. In each market there are items which must be carried at all stores in that market, items which are optionally offered based on franchisee discretion , and then there are a few items which Subway requires in every store in a given region (region being a country, more or less.)
Every market in the United States must carry white American cheese. Mozzarella cheese is also required across the United States as Subway mandated all U.S. Subway stores start serving pizza–and stores carrying pizza must offer mozzarella.
After that you have three cheese choices, one of which must be shredded cheddar (there are different varieties of shredded cheddar, and the decision on which to use is made market-to-market.) Market decisions are usually made by franchisee voting.
After those three cheeses (American, cheddar, mozarella) the other two vary wildly from market to market. Generally pepperjack/provolone/swiss are the most popular options for those final two cheese slots. In general cheese selection is entirely market-based, the franchisee has no say individually.
Franchisees do get discretion in what chips and cookies they serve (although again, some are mandated in all U.S. Subways and some are market-mandated.) There is a similar situation for sauces as well.
However in addition to all this, some Subway owners will apply for waivers to get around these things (you can get a waiver for most anything) and there is varying degrees of success in getting these waivers.
And finally, some stores just plain remain out of compliance. For example many Subway franchisees do not like the pizza program because the pizzas have a high food cost, significantly slow down the lunch line, and also do not sell well in some areas. These franchisees have elected to refuse to serve the pizzas. What this means is each month they will be marked out of compliance, and eventually they will have to go to arbitration in Connecticut where their franchise will be revoked and their lease taken over by their development agent under the orders of DAI. It takes several years for that process to complete itself, though. Some problem franchisees routinely remain out of compliance when they don’t want to implement something Subway has mandated. For example you may see the odd Subway that has the really old Subway logo and store decor, because the owner doesn’t want to pay for the mandatory upgrade/remodel. Eventually they do have to give in, but they can get away with non-compliance for a long time.
–This should conclude any questions people have about Subway.
Well consider my ignorance fought
Complaining about the food at Subway is like complaing about the clothes at the GoodWill store.
My five dollar/foot long tuna sub is… gently used?
I can’t think of the name of it now, but it’s in Oak Park.
Actually, “everything” in Chicago is a matter of some debate. There is the Vienna Beef marketing “everything,” which claims a proper Chicago dog with everything is: poppy seed bun, tomatoes, onions, neon relish, sport peppers, pickle spear, mustard, celery salt. This is what most Chicagoans will say is a Chicago hot dog. Even Mike Royko adhered to this standard.
However, this has never been the definition of “everything on it” in any hot dog place I grew up near in the city. The standard everything, in my experience, is mustard, onions, relish (non-neon), optional sport peppers, and occasionally pickle spear. Usually on a plain bun. You will still find Vienna Beef hot dog signs in the city that depict just these topping. So mustard, onions, and relish is the starting point for “everything.” Beyond that, it really depends on where you get your dog. Some places add, as you’ve noted, lettuce, fresh cukes, and even green peppers (?!) to their dogs. Some have pickled tomatoes. There’s quite a lot of variation.
I agree, the mustard, onions, relish & optional sport peppers is the basic variety. Johnnie’s on North Ave. in Elmwood Park does it that way. But to me, the full Vienna Beef dog you mention (with the tomatoes, pickle spear, and celery salt added) is the limit ! And the tomatoes should always be sliced, not diced. And if you are going to put cukes on it, same with them. I’m willing to take them off to eat separately. I do like the pickled tomatoes on the side, like you get at SuperDawg.
One thing that is certain is that ketchup never belongs on an “everything” hot dog in Chicago. That is universally understood. I once got ketchup when I requested everything on my dog in a place near the Loop–I don’t know if the kid was new to town or whether he was playing some cruel practical joke on me–but I’ve never gone back. It breaks my heart to have to say “everything, no ketchup” in the city.
Agreed 100%.
I am getting hungry.
Sarahfeena:
I agree, the mustard, onions, relish & optional sport peppers is the basic variety. Johnnie’s on North Ave. in Elmwood Park does it that way.
Whaddaya doing getting a hot dog at Johnnie’s?
(To explain to others: Johnnie’s is predominantly known for its Italian beefs; many consider them the best in the area.)
Hazle_Weatherfield:
OK, still not getting why people insist that a minor irritant doesn’t belong in the Pit. Again, it’s kind of a fun break to participate in a Pit thread that doesn’t involve total douchebaggery and mockery of tragedy.
The thing is, there already is a forum for Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share. I submit that how your sub shop tops your sandwich falls squarely in that category.
I actually tend to get the Italian sausage sandwich when I go there.
Funny, I’d never heard of Johnnie’s before I met him…I’m a far NW suburban girl, but he’s from Elmwood Park. Marrying him has opened up a delicious world of fast food to me that I never knew existed!
No, it doesn’t. Why no egg?
Yes, but when it gets put in the Pit I can tell you to fuck off if you don’t like it, you whiny, miserable slimy cuntmuscle. Sounds like a perfect win to me…
Subway serves pizza? I’ve never seen such a thing–sounds mega stupid to me. Yes, the sandwich place is logically where I’d go for pizza! :smack:
And right now I’d kill a puppy for a Spicy Italian… dammit!
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Mr.Krebbs:
Why the fuck do I have to explicitly state that I want jalapenos on my fucking sandwich? When I tell you I want “everything but the carrots, tomatoes and cucumber,” why do you refuse to give me what I fucking asked for? Can you not take directions? It really fucking ruins it for me when I have to eat my $5 Spicy Italian without fucking jalapenos. I mean, couldn’t you at least ask if I wanted some, rather than just not give me any at all?
This is not the first time. I frequently tell them I want “everything but…” but they skip the jalapenos until I ask for them. Unfortunately, this time the cashier was ringing up my order while the girl was putting the finishing touches on my sandwich and I wasn’t keeping a close watch on the “sandwich artist.” I knew I should have asked if she had included my fucking jalapenos, but I put too much faith in her ability to notice how precise I was about ordering the damn thing. I mean, if I took the time to mention I didn’t want carrots (which don’t normally come on the subs to my knowledge, but are in the veggie tray section), why the fuck wouldn’t I mention that I didn’t want fucking jalapenos if that was the fucking case?!?
Goddamn. I really want to blame somebody, but I know this isn’t entirely the sandwich artist’s fault. I’m sure it’s mostly to blame on the cunt-slime scumsuckers that said “everything” and then bitched and moaned because they burnt their pansy-wansy tongues on some relatively mild jalapenos. Fuck those people.
You know, I’m not proud of this rant, but I hope it takes away the urge to call the local Subway and complain.
ETA: Argh, I just realized that I say “everything but…” as a fucking courtesy to my fucking sandwich artist. Next time, I’ll just slowly list the items I want while the girl looks up at me expectantly, just like the rest of the fucking cattle.
Subway kinda sucks. The best subs at least when I grew up came from local mom and pop delis. But I found a Jersey Mike’s near here, and I go there when I want a hoagie.
FWIW, I’ve visited a dozen Subways in the Central Florida area in the last six months and none of them are serving pizza. I’ve also never seen an ad for Subway pizza.
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I’m not sure anyone is arguing with your point. Mainly because your point is basically summed up as “I like to act like a whiny douchebag.”
Martin_Hyde:
@Mr . Krebb – Subway has something called “the works.” The works is lettuce, tomato, cucumber, pickle, green pepper, olive and onion. This is the “most standard” version of “everything.” A lot of Subways train to that, and there is supposed to be a sign up telling you about “the works” and also mentioning what is NOT included on it.
I went to Subway’s website, to see if I could find an official definition of “everything.” The closest I found was
The following are the standard formulas for sandwiches, salads and wraps served at SUBWAY® restaurants. The customer can alter this formula by choosing different vegetables, condiments and breads. Standard vegetables include iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, red onions, green peppers, olives and pickles.
followed by a list of sandwich descriptions, each of which included the words “and standard vegetables.”
The breakfast menu is optional from store to store, actually. Generally the most common opening time for a Subway is 10:00 AM (this is the latest you can open a Subway in the United States), and breakfast can only be served until 11:00 AM. So a good portion of Subways don’t participate in the breakfast program.
Locations which open earlier in the day or 24-hour locations do often participate in the breakfast program, further in some markets if you are open before X hour it is mandatory that you participate in the breakfast program.
Subway sounds like a horrible boyfriend.
Martin_Hyde:
The breakfast menu is optional from store to store, actually. Generally the most common opening time for a Subway is 10:00 AM (this is the latest you can open a Subway in the United States), and breakfast can only be served until 11:00 AM. So a good portion of Subways don’t participate in the breakfast program.
Locations which open earlier in the day or 24-hour locations do often participate in the breakfast program, further in some markets if you are open before X hour it is mandatory that you participate in the breakfast program.
I was thinking he meant no BOILED eggs, since that’s a common addition to a salad.
My husband gets the hot dogs…he is notoriously cheap, and I think you can still get a dog there for something like a buck and a quarter, so he loves to get them.