Nope, as an outside observer, Indianapolis is by far the most interesting team that could get to draft Luck.
How hurt is Manning? How much would he resent having a clock placed on the rest of his career? If you trade luck, could you cobble together enough picks to win Manning another Super Bowl or two? How much loyalty does Indianapolis owe Manning - all in in an attempt to win him another Superbowl (which in brutal honesty I think his reputation could use) even if it hurts their long term success?
I still think McCoy will turn out to be a decent quarterback, if he’s actually given someone to throw to. That said, there is no reason to bet the farm on Luck. For a guy who’s supposed to be the Second Coming, his numbers are fairly pedestrian despite playing in a conference that doesn’t have any defenses.
Landry Jones has the same upside and a third of the price tag.
I’m not sure raw stats in college is the best measure of success in the NFL. Keenum, Griffen, and Moore (QB’s with higher passer efficiency ratings in the NCAA) all run a version of the spread offense, while Luck is in a heavily pro style offense. His experience in that kind of offense is one of the things that greatly increases his value and decreases the likelihood of busthood. I think that could be the biggest thing the NFL likes about Luck, his bust potential is so much lower than many QB’s coming out.
Again, even accepting Jones’ has the same upside as Luck (I don’t think he does, but I’ve got a big ole’ mancrush on Luck), I think Jones bust potential is much higher, and his floor much lower, than Luck’s. Also, Jones may very well go in the top 10, maybe top 5, so his price tag isn’t that low.
I do think that the QB class year will be much better than many in recent memory. Luck, Jones, and Barkley may all be top 10 picks, and there’s some depth at the position so teams could grab Moore, Tannehill, Griffin, Wilson, Cousins, or even Nick Foles and may find a starter at QB. But I do think Luck is all that and a bag of chips, even if his stats aren’t gaudy.
ETA: Of course we’re early in the draft season, so it’s all positive now. There will certainly be more negatives showing up about all these guys as the draft gets closer.
shrug It’s not as though Luck plays in a run-heavy offense. I agree that it’s not fair to compare him with Timmy Chang or something, but Moore definitely does not play in a spread; Boise just runs zone read plays occasionally.
Luck might be all that and a bag of chips; the question is whether he’s the only one who’s all that plus chips, and I don’t think he is. All that’s certain is that he’s the only one who will cost 2+ first round picks.
I wasn’t intending this to be a debate on Andrew Luck’s worthiness of the top pick, but I’ll go ahead and say it: he’ll win a Super Bowl. Or two.
I’d give three 1st Rounders for him, and I wouldn’t trade the pick away if I had it.
And, short of a miraculous comback by either the Colts in thier game or KC against Miami, the Colts stand alone. We can probably start looking at 1-15 teams, now.
Huh? The Colts are 0-9. St. Louis beat the Saints last week. I suppose they’re not out of the running, but the Colts are leading (from behind) right now.
Right, I don’t mean they’re in the running for 0-16, but they’ve still got a decent shot of getting the #1 overall pick. If they got 2 games ahead of the Colts I’d be more worried.