Suicide Squad - "Seen It" Open Spoilers Thread

True. If Enchantress had stayed on the team (and I was hoping they’d figure out a way to do that) then they’d be able to take on quite a bit more.

I got the chance to see it with my wife. We both had fun; it was an entertaining, bubble-gum sort of flick. It was very literally comic-booky. Everyone seemed to talk in comic book word balloons, except Will Smith, which was why I felt his portrayal really didn’t fit well with the others. He was funny and fun to watch, but I never bought him as a cold-blooded hitman for one second. The other big problem I had was the sountrack. It was all over the place and didn’t seem to have any sort of theme, and it drowned out the dialogue at times. I liked it, but I can see why it got bad reviews. It’s definitely not for everyone. It reminds me of another superhero movie I liked that got bad reviews: Mystery Men. It has the same sort of unreal, surreal vibe to it visually and thematically, though this movie is much, much darker.
I think I’d give it about a 6 out of 10.

You know, If you look back at Justice League Unlimited, etc. Waller has a knack for trying to get together some super-duper secret thing to stop a rogue Superman- and *every single time * * it gets out of her control and blows up in her face. It this case it caused the loss of most of a city core, hundreds or thousands of civilians and a aircraft carrier. No way that after that kind of failure she’d still be around.

The concept was stupid.

Smith was great. Quinn had some great lines. Fun. But stupid. The Joker part was the worst. Crap can somebody go back in time and stop Heath from making his “Joker” so good?

  • just like shooting the Hulk. I mean, come on, it has never worked, it will never work, so why? Nobody ever learns?

I don’t agree with the Will Smith love. He was Will Smith and nothing more. He turned Deadshot into Will Smith. I’d never say “wow Will Smith really captured the essence of Deadshot!” Ryan Reynolds finally found the perfect role for himself in Deadpool, but Will Smith brought nothing to the character of Deadshot.

Harley’s meta power is to wear underpants and bend over so everyone becomes distracted and drops what they’re doing. She acted like a normal person pretending to be crazy more than an actual crazy person, and what was her accent supposed to be? It seemed to come and go.

As a casual viewer, I have no way of knowing what the “essence of Deadshot” is. But Will Smith being Will Smith was still more entertaining than what most of them were doing.

Yes, if you’re a Hollywood exec you can bank on Will Smith being Will Smith. The credits should say:

Will Smith: himself.

I thought it was perfectly fine comic book movie. Not perfect (it was particularly clunky in the first twenty minutes or so), but a passably entertaining ensemble film and looked good in 3D. I’m certainly not sorry I spent the time and money on it. I don’t get the hate.

She’s like the whole team. If it wasn’t for some convoluted set of circumstances, you only need her for any mission and that’s it. Give her a bit of lead time and she can take out pretty much anyone

The problem is she’s unstable, so you can never be sure if she’s going to turn on you. The team, particularly Deadshot are needed for ‘insurance’…at least in the comics.

Reminds me of a bit from the Justice League episode “Task Force X” (an actually good Suicide Squad story; maybe they should let the guys from their animation division handle the storytelling with purely technical input from the live-action side):

Amanda Waller, played by Viola Davis.

That’s what I get for straying beyond vague descriptions like “Evil Government Lady” :smiley:

They’ll have the same problem with Superman in the upcoming Justice League film. They’ll come up with some contrivance.

Yeah, their mission really didn’t make a whole lot of sense. And Waller was practically salivating over the thought of somehow harnessing Enchantress’s ability assimilate ordinary people into mindless drones for her own purposed. She comes across as a bigger dad than anyone on the squad.

I imagine Deadshot could to a lot of damage with kryptonite bullets.

It’s a very exaggerated New York accent Also how old is she supposed to be if was already a trained psychiatrist treating dangerous criminals like the Joker, then spent several years as his sidekick/girlfriend, got caught, & sent a few years in prison? :dubious:

I was bored half asleep but they said Deadshot never misses. But didn’t he miss Batman in their confrontation? Could have sworn I heard at least one shot in there.

Batman isn’t wearing underoos. Never missing doesn’t mean you can magically shoot through armor.

I was never a DC guy. In both the TV universe and now the new DC Movie Universe they show Deadshot as a sympathetic character. Is that how he is portrayed in the comic book?

That is certainly not true. He has the ability to play against type (Concussion, The Pursuit of Happyness, Six Degrees of Separation). Even in that other superhero movie Hancock he didn’t play his usual character. But the Fresh Prince grown up is a bankable character and audiences like it so that is the default position for Smith in a Will Smith movie.

I don’t think so. He was walking with his daughter, Batman jumps down and Deadshot falls on his ass (I don’t recall if Batman hit him or he just fell back when Batman landed) and then Deadshot pulls out his gun. But his annoying kid stands between them and pleads for Deadshot not to shoot and Deadshot puts the gun away.

Pretty much. They spend (if anything too much) time humanizing him with scenes with his daughter, he states that he doesn’t kill women & children, and at one point he is offered freedom with his daughter (or something like that) to shoot an escaping Harley Quinn and intentionally misses the shot. The military guy leading the group sneers that Deadshot will probably flee from the first battle so, of course, DS winds up saving all the soldiers by single-handledly holding the line against the charcoal monsters.

You misunderstood my question. I know how he was shown in the movie. I’ve seen it. I’ve also watched Arrow so I know how he is portrayed there. I was wondering how he is in the comic. It seemed weird on tv how they rapidly turned him from being a total psychopath to a sympathetic character.

In the comic, he has no problem shooting women. He is considered a professional hitman and will do whatever he is paid to do. I don’t know if he has ever killed a child. Still on occasion, he has ‘modified’ his aim/target to have the same end result without killing, but that’s only been a few instances.

I think over the years, they have been softening his character, turning him into more an anti-hero than straight up villain, but that’s may be more just a matter of who’s writing him at the time.

According to canon, he has a psychological block against shooting, let alone killing Batman.