Supermarket Silliness

So I go to the supermarket tonight. Need to buy a few things, like milk, bread, eggs, soup, and other items to carry me through the next few days.

Oh, and some beer. Sam Adams.

Now, I’ve just moved to Michigan from Oregon…arrived in the state last Friday and started work on Monday. I haven’t had the chance to get my Michigan driver’s license yet. I didn’t think my Oregon driver’s license would pose a problem, but then again, I didn’t count on getting a cashier who was apparently operating with a 1.5 volt brain. The poor woman needed to check my ID because of the beer purchase, and was thrown for a loop by my foreign ID.

“Oregon?” she said as she gazed at the unfamiliar object. “What’s that?”

“It’s a state,” I said, trying to keep the amazement out of my voice. “It’s located between California and Washington. I just moved here from Oregon last week, and haven’t had the time to go to the DMV to get a new license.”

“Oh.”

A long pause.

“This says you were born in 1994,” she said.

I looked at where she pointed. Instead of unleashing an acerbic tongue-lashing for her apparent illiteracy, I simply pointed out the line above the date in question, which indicated when the license was issued.

“Here’s my date of birth,” I said, pointing at the appropriate line. Just in case, I added that the letters “DOB” above my birthdate stood for the phrase “date of birth.”

She looked at the DOB, and then at me.

“Oh.”

That’s it, I thought. I’m officially in the fucking Twilight Zone.

“Is there anything else about the license that is bothering you?” I asked.

“Well,” she said. “It’s from Oregon.” She does not pronounce the state name correctly.

“And?”

“I’ve never heard of it.”

Did this bitch flunk geography in grade school or something? She’s never heard of Oregon?!

“I promise you,” I said, “it’s a state. An American state.”

“Well,” she said, putting the license back on the plastic mini-table that customers used for writing checks. “I’ve never heard of it.”

Your lack of education shouldn’t be my problem, you moron. But I don’t say that. There are people waiting behind me, and as I turn around to gauge the impatience of the man behind me, I can see on his face the unmistakable expression of amusement.

“Get your manager,” I said, not bothering anymore to hide the irritation from my voice. “And I suggest that your manager bring an atlas.”

She calls the manager over. The manager, a woman of Shamu proportions that must have been interrupted during her evening feed because she was annoyed as she arrived.

She does not bring an atlas.

“Za problem?” she said as she arrived at the counter.

“This gentleman is purchasing some beer along with his groceries,” the cashier said. “And he gave this for his ID.” She said the word this the way someone might refer to a warm bucket of phlegm.

The manager looked at it. “Oh,” she said.

I make a silent oath to myself that if I hear either one of them say “oh” again, I’m walking out with my license.

“Let me look this up.”

Apparently the manager has access to a book depicting driver’s licenses from various states and provinces throughout North America. She finds the one matching my license.

“Oh wow,” the cashier exclaims. I gaze at her in undiluted astonishment. Yes, you poor addled sop, a place called Oregon really exists. Thank you so much for making me feel like I’ve moved to the edge of the fucking universe, where apparently anything further away than the address of your crack dealer doesn’t register upon your consciousness.

The manager reads the description of the Oregon driver’s license, her finger moving under each word as she reads. I note that she is apparently a VERY slow reader. She gets to the part about the back of the license having two bar codes on it. She flips the license over and examines it.

One bar code is of the traditional design, lines of varying thickness. The other bar code is made of varying pixels of black and white.

“Does this look like a bar code to you?” she asks the cashier. I almost blurt out my disbelief that she’s asking this geography-impaired nitwit for a fucking opinion.

“Uh,” she saids. “I don’t know.”

Shamu studies the license for a long, long time. At one point, she glances up at me when I shift my stance in a rather obvious manner and says, “I’m just making sure that you’re over 18.”

“Do I LOOK like I’m over 18?” I ask her.

“Well,” she said. “I don’t know.”

GodDAMMIT!

True story: some number of years ago, I was asked to provide my ID when I tried buying a ticket to see the movie “L.A. Confidential.” Now I’m getting a flashback to that moment, when I’m staring at that prepubescent chick behind the glass wall wanting me to prove that I’ve reached the age of majority just so I can see an R-rated movie. I was about 24 when that movie came out.

I’m not enjoying the flashback at all.

Now I’ve dropped all pretense of civility. I pull out my hospital ID badge and slap it on the mini-table. “Ask yourself something: do you really think that the Children’s Hospital would issue an employee ID badge to someone that hadn’t even finished high school?”

The manager stared at the badge. It was a rather nice piece of work.

“Well…” she said. And that was all. She just trailed off into an empty sentence.

“Look,” I said. “I really don’t have all night. I’ve got lots of unpacking to do. Just make a command decision as to whether or not you think I’m over 18. If you decide yes, great, I’ll pay for everything right now with cash. If not, I’m walking out the door and getting all this stuff somewhere else.”

She stares at me. “OK. I think you’re 18.”

“Glad to hear it,” I said, as I get my license back and fork over some money.

Some people just don’t have the common sense of an oyster.

Oregon? I’ve hearda that! I put it in my spaghetti sauce for extra zip!

Reminds me of what happened to my husband last year. Background info: We live in Illinois, but he went to college in Wisconsin; I’m from Wisconsin and we met in college. So while we were in college, both of us purchased alcohol after we turned 21, him with his IL state driver’s license and me with my WI DL. Since that time (about 10 years ago), we have gone back to WI at least a few times a year, and often purchased alcohol while on those trips.

So last summer, we go back to Wisconsin to stay with friends, and decide we need to buy alcohol. He goes to a grocery store to buy beer. Due to a strict carding policy, he gets asked to show ID. He pulls out his IL DL and puts it on the counter.

The cashier doesn’t want to accept it. Not because she doesn’t think Illinois doesn’t exist, mind you. Not because she thinks it’s not a valid ID, or that he isn’t the guy pictured on it, nope.

She tells him that she can’t accept it because it’s not a Wisconsin ID. Note that there is no “we do not accept out-of-state IDs” sign anywhere. I have seen “no out-of-state checks” signs before, but he wasn’t paying by check.

He blinks in amazement, looks at her, and says in a calm voice, “Let me get this straight, are you saying that you do not sell alcohol to out-of-state residents? If that is in fact the case, I can take my business elsewhere.”

This seems to confuse her, as she stammers some, and tries to repeat the “it’s not a Wisconsin ID” line.

He assures her that he realizes it’s not issued by Wisconsin, as he doesn’t live there, but that he has successfully purchased alcohol all over the state with it for over a decade. Then he asks if he needs to discuss this with a manager, or if he needs to leave.

After thinking this over for a few seconds, she rings up the alcohol and the rest of his purchase.

:smack:

I work with a few people that didn’t know what Oregon was. LOL. Has nobody heard of the Oregon trail? Sheesh.

Oh god. I swear that some of these kids these days are on crack or something if they’re doing that.
Oi.:smack:

IDBB

Doesn’t every state require you to be at least 21 to purchase alcohol? And if so, why was she checking for you to be 18?

You think not comprehending the existence of Oregon is bad?

A few months ago, I dropped into my local grocery at lunchtime to grab some lunchmeat from the deli. I asked the guy behind the deli counter for a third of a pound of ham. He starts slicing some up, and when he brings it over to toss it onto the scale, I notice that it weighs in at 0.40 lbs. I was just about to say that it was OK that it was over, but before I could, he turns around to start slicing more.

I said “Excuse me, sir, but I only wanted a third of a pound of that.” He turns back and snarls at me “Well, I don’t know what a third is”.

::goggles in amazement::

“Ummm…that would be 0.33 on the scale.”

He takes a slice off, the scale reads about 0.37 and I tell him that’s fine. He wraps it up and nearly throws it at me and I walk away, wondering how this guy manages to feed and clothe himself without assistance. This guy was not a young kid, he appeared to be in his late 20’s/early 30’s. How can you work in a deli and not know how to weigh up a third of a pound of something???

Egad.

Absolutely hair-raising.

I’m old enough to know better myself. When I worked in a supermarket during high school, some time back, the employees were all friendly, efficient and, as needed, personable. We weren’t graduates of any special schools or programs but, as you alluded to, we had a good brain and good common sense.

It seems that over the years, slowly, society has devolved the human being into some sort of a techno beast that roams from moment to moment and is practically devoid of a soul; our humanity having been bred out of us We are the product of our culture. Hell, we ARE our culture.

Pity.

I have friends that live in Oregon and I’m still not convinced the state isn’t some form of mass delusion. I commend that cashier for fighting the system. Up with reality!

What is this “California and Washington” of which you speak?

Plainly, you have moved into a place full of stupid people. I pity you. Perhaps you should leave.

Oh, wait. EVERYWHERE is full of stupid people. Hm.

Well, with the “No Child Left Behind” education legislation Bush pushed through, Texas is trying a noble experiment – they have basically made it illegal to be stupid.

I’ll let you know if we have any success enforcing it.

OMG, there are some serious morons around this world. It’s bad enough when people can’t identify certain countries in the world but not to know that Oregon is a state? That’s just sad.

Reminds me of some of the people on Jay Walking who can’t even identify George Bush’s face in a picture.

This one time, in real life, I was going through a Kentucky Fried Chicken drive thru. I had just helped a friend do some gardening stuff and I was hot and tired. I had a 45 minute drive home and wanted some water and french fries. KFC has potato wedges (which are unhealthy btw). I did not have enough cash for a soft drink, so I asked for some water. The lady behind the speaker said that they only gave out small size cups of water. I replied that I was really thirsty and could I have a medium size cup of water. She repeated that they could only give out small size cups of water.

At the end of rope I said, “Well, could I get four waters with that?”

Speaker, “Sure!”

I was really thirsty, so I didn’t push my luck and ask her to put the four waters into one big cup, which would be cheaper than 4 small cups…

Atreyu, that was a very well written story, IMHO.

Heh. Michiganites are so … well … erm, check out Escanaba in da Moonlight next time you’re at the video store and you’ll catch my drift. I have some family from Escanaba (Yupers). Don’t know how representative of the state it is, but I’m not surprised at your encounter. Heh.

I get hassled every time I buy alcohol and cigarettes no matter where I go. My hair is short now, but on my DL it’s really long. For some reason people seem to have immense trouble reconciling that difference. I usually end up using my military I.D. to purchase booze and smokes, as it lends a certain air of authority. People usually don’t bother to inspect it. I guess they think, “Hm, military, guess I better not question it.”

I had a similar experience in California trying to buy smokes from a grocery store, when I showed my Ontario drivers licence. Too bad the cashier didnt have that ID book to double check. But when she said that she didnt accept out of state drivers licences and would I have California ID, I tried to explain to her that I’m not from the United States and all I could show her was my passport or drivers licence. But she refused, she said that she didnt accept out of state drivers licences or military ID’s. I had an easier time renting an apartment there than buying smokes from the local grocery store, go figure. So I went to 7-11.

Atreyu, After you left you know they convinced themselfs that you where an asshole that pulled a “fast one on them with this story of state called Oregon”.

I’ve used my military dependents ID for this stuff before, and I’ve still been asked for my driver’s license. This was in San Antonio, which is a HUGE Air Force town.

Robin

Be glad you didn’t move there from New Mexico. They would have called the INS on you.

It’s funny – I only get asked for secondary I.D. when I use it near an Army/Air Force Base. When I’m in a civilian population, I guess they aren’t as familiar with it, but I’ve never been questioned. I use to live near Eglin AFB and they’d always ask for secondary I.D.

The official rule, according to the TABC here in TX, is that “anything but a valid Texas ID” is considered “questionable.” We, too, have those little books with pictures of other states’ IDs…the reason being that if there were a fake Oregon ID, for instance, I’d be much less liable to realize it, because I don’t know what a real Oregon ID looks like.

(Now that I know Oregon itself is a figment of my imagination, I’m gonna be pretty damn strict.)

For the record, I’ve never used the little book; I follow my own judgment. I also take military ID’s…San Antonio being, as **Ms.Robyn ** observed, a huge military town.

The only time I don’t accept military ID’s is when they say the person is only 20. :smiley: (In case you think I’m being facetious, you should see the number of military guys who hand me their ID and really think I’m not going to do the math on the fact that they’re under-age. It’s truly mind-boggling. They have the nerve to get pissed off about it, too, when I make fun of them. Which of course I do. Repeatedly.)