I wasn’t paying full attention. Did Jeff say the last three Exile Islanders are in the jury? Also that another of the Exile tribe could still win their way back?
Man, they are really desperate to keep their Returnees/Stars/Favorite in the show as long as possible.
How have the Returnees in other mixed seasons done, anyway?
Yeah, they edited that sequence very strangely. it was “Wait, what?”/Rewind at our house.
Looking back at the ones where there were only a few returnees…
Guatemala (S11): Bobby Jon was first jury member, Stephenie was 2nd place
Redemption Island (S22): Russell Hantz got voted out third (with his own tribe purposely losing a challenge to vote him out!), Boston Rob won
South Pacific (S23): Ozzy was voted out 7th, returned, immediately voted out again, returned and then was voted out right before the FTC; Coach was 2nd place
Philippines (S25): Russell Swan voted out 4th, Penner made jury, Skupin tied for 2nd place
So they actually tend to do fairly well - and in every season one has at least made it to the final Tribal Council.
Thanks for the stats, Magnusblitz.
I’m not sure how to think of it. Clearly the show’s producers bring back people they think will attract more viewers for ratings purposes, which is understandable, but it still seems to unbalance the field. You don’t let professionals compete in most amateur sports, after all.
But in Survivor, the players have control of who leaves the game, after all, and can simply gang up and toss them out. Which is pretty much what happened in this vote, with 11 out of 13 votes going to returnees. Might be interesting next TC, since Kelley has a HI and David might end up getting the use of one. Could have another case of someone being voted out by a single vote if none of the rest ‘count.’
You know it’s a bad season when you still don’t know who half the players are, this far into the game.
I was watching via antenna, live—so I was just like “wait, what?” I did go back and watch that part online later. Almost like they caught the camera operators napping?
On one hand, it was a good idea to git rid of Joe when he didn’t have immunity. And assuming there will be another challenge to get back in, you want him wasting away on Extinction for as long as possible.
On the other hand, I think the Kama 6 played their hand one tribal too early. If they were smart, Kelly, Lauren, Rick, David, Wardog, and Aurora (who?) would work together against them. But I fear it will turn into them all going “I don’t care who gets voted out as long as it’s not me.”
The way Wendy and Keith walked to the sail and hoisted it together looked too composed to me. Like they’d originally just done it without the cameras there or something went wrong, so they reenacted it for the show.
Joe is also on Extinction Island, charming the heck of all of the potential jurors. Probably providing fish.
He has got to be the favorite to re-enter the game and if he can earn immunity to the final four, I think he wins. The fact that he was on Edge of Extinction island is not a disadvantage because most of the jury is going to eventually be on the EoE. They are not going to hold that against him.
Exactly. And this presents the major flaw with EI, at least as it applies to Joe. It’s more like he’s getting immunity for the next few weeks until they decide to let someone back in – odds are it will be Joe.
The producers couldn’t have planned it any better! :dubious:
I think to a certain extent it’s unavoidable… EoE eats up time, and when only one tribe is repeatedly sent to tribal it’s hard to spend time on the other teams since you want to know what’s going into the votes. Some of the players were getting their torches at the merge vote!
My initial thought was to like the move because I think that if I were a new player, I’d be voting out the returnees at the earliest opportunity. But thinking about it more I agree that I think the Kama 6 did it too early. They possibly weakened themselves in numbers too early, and did so in a way that lets everyone know they’re not going to be part of their group. Also, Joe’s good at immunities but he won’t win them all.
Wardog actually sucks at everything, he has done poorly at pretty much all contests. All hat and no cattle.
Same here. I had to go back just to process the fact that two of them left.
It’s because no one really leaves the show, as a result they have to split their time among the tribes and EoE island. You end up getting to know the losers better than the people playing the game.
And usually the first people voted off are not people you really want to see. One episode of Reem was one episode too many.
ETA: And the other problem is that when you have returning players, they suck up all the attention. All the confessionals are either them talking or other people talking about them.
That’s true on the returning players, combine that with the island of misfit toys and it’s not surprising that we don’t know half the players yet. I think they clearly included EoE because it meant that returning players like Capt. Jack Sparrow, I mean Ozzie retread, I mean Joe can stay on camera even when they’ve been voted off.
I was so disappointed when Jeff announced that Edge of Extinction was going to happen again. I thought the merge re-entry was about the perfect spot to stop.
:rolls eyes:
I’m a bit confused about the whole jury thing. Will the Final TC jury actually consist of the entire cast (minus Keith, Wendy, and anyone else who raises the sail)? That’s just too many people, and the early ejectees have no idea how anybody is playing the game, so they really have no business voting for a winner.
Plus, it strips away the achievement of “making the jury,” which may be something of a consolation prize, but is still something that players can shoot for.
I get that they need to keep players on their toes and keep viewers interested, but I’m not on board with this change if everybody stays to the end.
I don’t know of anybody who thinks that the first person voted out should be a juror (for several reasons), but that could be what happens. The bright side of that would be watching Reem questioning the jury. Can you imagine the contempt on both sides?
Overall, I think the EOE gimmick could turn out to be one of the show’s worst, right up there with Redemption Island.
Reem would be a nightmare to live with, but for a few minutes a week, I find her amusing. You aren’t entertained by her at all? “C’mon, dude! Lame.” 