Yup, that’s correct. 
Montfort, Montfort, stop drawling of every other women,
soon I get jellous.
Am I not enough for you?
Mea culpa. It was a typo–I spelled it correctly a bit later in the same post.
Elisabeth’s fiance was expected to be drafted in the NFL draft. Between any signing bonus or salary he gets from the NFL, XFL, or NFL Europe and Elisabeth’s own winnings from Survivor, hopefully Elisabeth’s mom will be taken care of. Admittedly, I don’t know how expensive the medical bills are.
Agreed. I only meant that I thought that Amber was at least as physically attractive as Elisabeth–she has a nice looking face, at least to me. I didn’t want to make a judgment re personality, though I know Elisabeth is generally conceded to have a better personality (albeit, I’m not sure I’d make a firm judgment just on show excerpts).
Re the remaining contestants: If I’m one of them, I try to vote off Colby the first friggin’ chance I get. UNLESS I feel I’m better off in the final two jury poll against him than against another contestant.
As spoke- said, Keith’s fiancee is a hottie. So I went to google and typed in “Keith Famie” and “Katrin” (we saw her name in the AIM window during last week’s episode).
I got one hit, which was their engagement announcement in their local (Michigan) newspaper. It included Katrin’s last name.
So I used Katrin’s full name as the search term. It gave me the engagement announcement again, plus this page.
It was somewhat informative. She’s 30, which makes her ten years younger than Keith. Her hometown is Clawson, MI. She ran this 5K race in an unimpressive, but not shameful, 29:29. Going by the men’s results, Keith apparently didn’t run the race with her (maybe in December he was still recuperating from his time in the Outback).
Does anyone know any more?
Also, Vegas oddsmakers are giving Colby 5-2 odds on winning the million, with Tina second, Keith third and Bessy a dark horse.
Mmmm…that last sentence gave me a brief image of Bessy as a nude lady centaur…
(yes, I need professional help)
No kidding. And what about the can of rice they “found” in the river after their camp was washed away? Give me a break. Did ANYTHING else just happen to get caught or washed up? No. That can of rice in the river was too obviously planted.
And, I’m rooting for Bessy too, but if she doesn’t win immunity next, she’s outta here. If I was Tina, I can’t decide who I’d rather be up against in the final two. Clearly, Jerri is going to hate Colby and possibly attempt to convince other jury members to vote against him if he is in the final two. But, if Colby is on the jury, clearly he is going to attempt to convince jury members to vote against Keith. So if Tina makes it to the final two, (which is a slim chance, because if Colby and Keith had any brains they wouldn’t want to be up against her in the final two and vote her out) my money’s on her.
I don’t think they actually see a person. From the CBS site:
Based on the video clip that matches up with the scene that seemed to indicate a person.
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*Originally posted by Sunshine *
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Thank You, Sunshine!
I KNEW the can of rice had to have been planted there, but everyone else (here at home) kept saying how “lucky” they were to have found it. What a load of crap. I think someone on the production staff plucked it out of the flood and carefully put it where they could find it.
As for the log on fire, I don’t think it had been smoldering for days, like someone (Keith?) said. Several hours, yes, but not days. It looked like it wasn’t too far from their camp. How could they not see it before?
ok, maybe I just have a conspiricy turn of mind. But I thought it was awful convieniant for Mike to get injured right before the tribes merged. It went from being 6 people that get along pretty good, and had a good relationship with each other versus a group of 5 that didn’t particularly get along to a 5 vs. 5 contest. Especially when I read an interview with him talking about the “miraculous” healing of his hands. I don’t know…just seemed real fishy to me.
Why do people think Jerri hates Colby? Until she was booted from the show, she didn’t know the bad things he was saying about her. I don’t think she really knew how he felt about her until the show finally aired.
For all she knows, it was Keith, Tina, Nick, Rodger, and Tina that voted her off. We, the viewers, have had the benefit of seeing everyone’s vote each week so we know what Colby’s writing looks like and we know it was read during Tribal Council. But, how was Jerri to know that Colby voted against her? Since it took only 5 votes to get rid of her, the last vote was never shown. Keep in mind that she has said in interviews that she didn’t know he voted for her.
I don’t think we should be kick to guess that Jerri would vote against Colby. The votes were sealed before they left the outback. It’s possible that he may have duped her long enough to get her vote for the million if he made it that far.
Whoops! That should’ve been Keith, Tina, Rodger, Nick, and Elisabeth. I listed Tina twice. 
I don’t really have any suspicions about Mike’s accident. While I’ll agree that it was convenient, I don’t think it was “staged.”
I know…that’s how I felt at first…I thought it an incredible coincidence. But then I figured, “Who would give up a chance at a million dollars, and why would the producers take that kind of risk” But when I saw Mike’s comment about the “miracle” of his hands being healed, I kinda got suspiciouse. I guess I’m not just a big believer in modern miracles.
I also have no suspicions about Michael’s accident.
Further, I don’t have any suspicions about the burning log Barramundi found or the recovery of the rice can. And I don’t think I’m naive for feeling this way.
spoke-, et al.: Are you saying that smoldering logs from forest fires or lightning strikes are never fortuitously found in the woods? If not, then why was it so hard to believe it happened in this case?
Are you saying the washed-away rice can could not have lodged against a rock in the river close enough for Barramundi to find it? If not, then why is its discovery and rescue so hard to believe?
Contrariwise, believing the burning log was planted requires us also to believe the producers of the show gave a shit if the tribe spent a night without fire. This flies in the face of the evidence, which is that the producers are quite happy to let the contestants shiver and go without cooked food.
Similarly, you’re asking us to believe the producers either threw the rice can into the stream themselves, or let the stream overtake it, but then placed it where the tribe could find it. But how could they have known the tribe would go after it? How could they have known the can wouldn’t have sunk, or gotten dislodged from its rock and washed away irretrievably?
Cynicism can be healthy, guys, but come on now.
Okay, I’ll give in on the burning log conspiracy, but I still have my doubts about the rice. We saw that shot of the can being swept away…we the viewers were supposed to think, “Oh, no, they have no food, after they gave up their tarps!! What will they do?!?”
I think (just my opinion, of course) the rice was floating away, and they (the producers or whomever) figured, “Okay, now they really are screwed…no food, no fishing stuff…what should we do? We can’t just give them more rice, but they are literally starving, so how about if we stick the rice can downriver a little ways and let them ‘find’ it?”
As soon as they got back to their washed-out camp, I was thinking, “Go walk downriver a little ways, maybe something washed up on the bank.” (it is possible, right?) A few minutes later Keith said he was going to walk downriver, and lo and behold, there was the rice!
I still can’t see it, Kinsey. Mark Burnett has consistently bragged about his crew’s non-interference with the castaways, to the extent of claiming that if a cameraman had tried to help Michael when he fell into the fire, he’d have been fired. To the extent that Colby was allowed to illegally harvest coral.
To the extent that (and this is key), they let the contestants run out of rice, and struck a hard bargain with them to let them have more.
The “engineered rice rescue” scheme just doesn’t make any sense in light of that. It depended on too many variables the producers couldn’t control:
- Whether the tribe would decide to look for the rice.
- Whether the rice would still be accessible and not sunk or floated further downstream.
- Whether Opalcat knew where the rice was.
- Whether the tribe would attempt Keith and Tina’s dangerous rescue.
When, in the event the rice was lost, the producers could have just struck another bargain with the players. More rice for all the luxury items, or more rice in lieu of the next immunity, or something like that.
What about the Jesus spoiler? Do you think its legit? I tried to mention it over at IMHO, but it was like walking into an insane assylum from the Twilight Zone.
Fiver wrote:
I’m saying it’s an awfully big coincidence. Too big for me to believe.
Lightning strikes can cause fires, yes, but the odds against such a fire occurring within a short distance from the tribe’s camp, and just at a time when their fire has gone out, is waaaaay too much to swallow.
I grew up in a house that abutted a National Forest, with lightning storms a regular fact of life. Yet never once did I stroll out of my back door and find a smoldering log.
It was a plant, no question in my mind.
And the producers do care about the tribe members starving and freezing. Why do you think they had the food auction just when the tribe was running low? Why did they bring another can of rice when the tribe ran out? Starving, freezing, somnambulant tribe members do not good television make.
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Hasselback did not get drafted. There is still the possibility teams might check him out as a free agent though. His brother was a slow starter but quickly became one the best young quarterbacks so there’s hope for him as well.
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By the way, the grass underneath and all around the burning log was very green. Shouldn’t there be some dead grass underneath a burning log, forest fire, or lightning strike?
What do you suppose the chances are that the rice cannister could have gotten there without human intervention? I would guess the chances are a lot higher than the smoldering log in the woods. The current, wind, the kangaroo trying to get out of the water, something (anything?) could’ve caused it to drift towards the bank and become lodged.
I just don’t see a cameraman taking the footage of the creek bed filling up with water, the rice floating away, and then chasing down the can and putting in a spot where the survivors could find it. Especially if the flood was as bad as they made it appear. Keep in mind that the survivors said that they had crossed the river a few hours earlier. When they returned, it was flooded and they had to wait several hours for it to go down before they could safely cross. It’s highly unlikely that the cameraman would put his/her life at risk because he/she wanted them to have some rice. Especially after MB showed a willingness to provide them with food when they ran out.
Now the smoldering log is another thing entirely. Keith’s matches were swept away in the flood so they didn’t have a way to start a fire. We all know how successful these guys were for starting a fire without matches. I’m willing to believe that the rice was just dumb luck, but I think the log was probably planted by someone who felt sorry for them.
spoke-:
Exactly. They wouldn’t let the tribe die, so they created the auction challenge within the game to give them some food, then later created the rice-for-tarps exchange within the game to further protect their health. In both cases Jeff Probst was present and no manipulation was done belowboard.
They’ve never needed to tweak the physical environment, and in the particular case of fire we’ve seen the producers are quite willing to let the tribe do without. Every time they’ve lacked fire before, in fact, Jeff reminds them they may take their lit torches back home from tribal council.
My head’s not in the clouds here; I’m ready to be convinced, for example, that Michael’s pig was brought in for him to capture. But to suggest the burning log and the rice can were further manipulations just doesn’t make any sense, in light of the rest of the series.