Why didn’tColby vote Tina off? Time after time on previous episodes he stated that he intended to go up against someone he could beat. Why the change of heart? Did Burnett persuade him to change his mind in order to make the finale more interesting? Colby had to know(he even stated it) that he had long odds against Tina. Something is amiss here. I think Burnett promised him some sort of indorsements or something so that he’d take the risk?
Next, Elizabeth stated that she voted for Tina. However, she almost definitely wrote a “C” as the first letter on her card. There are explanations I suppose, but it seems really suspicious.
A couple opinions (it’ll probably wind up in that opinion forum anyway), guesses:
Assuming the best motive for Colby, he simply decided that he wanted either Tina or himself to win, decided that he no longer wanted the million so bad.
Colby didn’t want Keith to even come in second.
Colby may have feared that Keith may have been able to beat him in the final two.
Perhaps, despite the prohibitions, he and Tina “cut a deal,” and somewhere down the line, a couple hundred grand will be transferred to Colby’s secret Swiss Bank Account.
Yes, I noted that Elisabeth made the motion of writing a “C.” But she may have changed her mind and crossed it out. Hell, Rodger, with his Masters Degree couldn’t spell “Kieth.”
Well, the Colbster did have a history of playing smart, and voting stupid ie. voting off people who he didn’t like, instead of voting off people who were threats.
He did (at least in what made it to air) say repeatedly that he wanted to be with people he liked.
Does it have to be anything so elaborate? I just saw it as this: Colby and Tina became very close friends during the game, and agreed that they would stay together as long as possible. All they were doing was staying loyal to each other.
There was a similar deal with Richard/Rudy in Survivor I. They agreed to stay loyal to each other until the end, and they followed through. They would’ve taken each other to the final 2 if not for Kelly winning immunity.
Ahem. The General Question here is “Is Survivor rigged?” Please keep all your other Survivor discussion in the appropriate forum (probably either MPSIMS or IMHO). Thank you.
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Still, I think there was some rigging going on cause it was supposed to only be a day or two when they read the winner on TV but the two people, Tina & Colby put on A LOT of weight when they read the winner. Plus, isn’t that odd that they pull the names from the bag in the order they did? alternating each other. odd.
It wasn’t a matter of days; the “Survivor” game finished in late November or early December, so it was only natural that they would have gained back all the weight they had lost.
Hubby and I actually had a discussion about how he would read the votes (how sad are we? ).
I figured whichever name he drew first was the winner. I thought he (Jeff Probst) would read them in one of the two following ways:
Alternating: Winner, 2nd Place Person, Winner, 2nd Place Person, Winner, 2nd Place Person (oooh, getting exciting now, 3 to 3!) and then of course the Winner.
Or, how he actually did it:
Winner, Winner, 2nd Place Person, 2nd Place Person, 2nd Place Person (oooh, now what…X has three votes, who will the next one be for?) then Winner (oooh, tied 3 to 3 now!), Winner.
As soon as he read the first vote (for Tina) I said, “That’s it, she won.”
They “arranged” the votes in certain orders before at other Tribal Councils; not a big deal to me; of course they are going to do that to make it more suspenseful.
He said before that he was torn between wanting to sit beside someone he was sure he could beat, and wanting to sit beside someone that he could be happy for if he or she won. And he made his decision. I don’t think that had anything to do with Mark Burnett bribing him. I just think he would have killed himself if he chose to sit with Keith, and Keith won. Long shot, sure, but remember who won the last Survivor. He had no idea if everyone liked him as much as he hoped, so maybe he was destined to come in second. Might as well make first place someone he likes.
I’m pretty sure that they arranged the votes to make it more suspenseful (3-3 tie, have to read them all), but I really don’t think that they actually altered the votes or convinced people to vote a certain way.
You’ve never watched it yet you know it is the stupidest thing on the planet…that makes a whole lot of sense.
You just couldn’t wait to share with the world the fact that you don’t watch it, could you? Do you think that makes you unique? Am I supposed to be impressed? Let me let you in on a little secret…the backlash reflex is so overdone.
Inside the mind of a backlash drama queen: *Here’s a first! I’m gonna go publicly announce to the world that I hate (insert popular t.v. show/ movie/ band here) without having watched/listened to the popular t.v. show/ movie/ band. I’m gonna waste my time posting in threads dedicated to these things that I feel are beneath me just so I can feel superior to all those fools who were sucked into the hype machine. *
If you had watched the show and then decided it sucked then that would be understandable. Otherwise you’re just as bad as someone who follows any trend for the simple reason that it is “in” except that you do the opposite. I guess that would make you a reverse sheep.
I’d be willing to bet money Survivor’s producers did not rigged the show in any significant way. If nothing else, there was no need to. With thousands of hours of video to choose from, foreknowledge of the outcomes of each challenge and vote, and several months to work with, they could easily edit reality into a coherent and entertaining storyline.
It’s been mentioned before: If the game was really rigged, Colby wouldn’t have won so much. He won the last five immunity challenges and was really on the ropes for at least two (the plate-breaking one and the “jailbreak” one).
As far as his “constantly saying it was about the game” or whatever…you know what, this sounds a lot like someone trying to convince himself that personal feelings don’t matter, because he’s trying to suppress those feelings (I saw a lot of this with Tina as well). So he turned at the 11th hour; is that really a surprise?
And let’s not forget that Jerri and Amber not only failed to make the final three, they got absolutely crushed. Wouldn’t CBS…especially after the Big Brother debacle…want to keep one of the “interesting” people around to the end? Okay, Jerri was more “unbearable” than interesting, but still more so than Rodger or Elisabeth.
Let’s also remember that one of the key turning points, which no one could have predicted, was Michael’s terrible accident. This not only automatically evened out the tribes, it polarized the already-unfriendly factions…thus ensuring what was arguably the most boring TC ever, and, after Jeff was eliminated, that no one from Kucha would have any chance of winning.
This was a heated, high-stakes contest which turned on many quirks of fate, and I really don’t see how it could have been rigged. A slip-up here, an inspration there, and Alicia could have been the winner. Or Amber. Who knows.
Lis did make a circular motion with her hand, but if you examine the pertinent frames, there is nothing on the paper when her circular motion is finished. There are twenty-seven frames involved in the motion. Capturing these, importing them into Picture Publisher, increasing the contrast and sharpening the edges, then re-animating them reveals that she might have been brushing away something on the paper. There is a speck that you can see with a strong ruby mask.
But Libertarian the film clearly shows Elisabeth was writing down and from the left, when as we all know, Elisabeth normally wrote up and from the right. And there is no way Elisabeth could have uncapped the pen, written a name, and recapped the pen in the time shown. Even professional FBI caligraphers were unable to duplicate this feat. And how could this so-called “Magic Marker” somehow have made a circular motion, be held unharmed in Elisabeth’s wrist, and then go on to form the straight lines needed to spell Tina. And what about the numerous reports of a second cameraman? The evidence just doesn’t add up.
I absolutely agree with this. Unless they’re pulling some elaborate “double fake” here, Colby wouldn’t have been allowed to win so many challenges. It looks suspicious.
I’m shocked, absolutely shocked, that no one has volunteered to search Elisabeth’s “grassy knoll”.
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It seems to me that you can realize the validity of a concept before engaging in it. For example, I’ve never hit myself in the head with a hammer, but I’d wager it’s not the smartest thing to do. Quite honestly, discussion about anything on TV, especially Fox (which I have experienced) is generally a very stupid thing. I believe I’ve made a more than fair judgment on Survivor and it’s pathetic followers. Anyone so glued to anything is a zombie and a tool. Even you, the man who wants to think he’s witty, when he’s just another faceless moron.
I have seen Survivor on occasion, and I did watch the finale. I might be missing something here, but one thing didn’t make sense to me. They made a big deal about sealing the votes so they could be revealed “live” in the US. The thing that doesn’t seem right is the Survivor reunion immediatly followed the finale. I didn’t watch the reunion, so maybe it was explained.
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