Survivor- April 30th, 2014

Tony has two idols and two weeks left to play them. The logical thing to do is to tell everyone about the special idol and show them the note explaining it’s powers. They will all realize that voting for him is a waste of time. Then he doesn’t have to play one next week and carries two to the final five. At that point he picks the one player who he might be able to beat for the million (Woo? Kass?) and give them one of the two idols.

If he got really lucky (which he seems to do regularly) Woo or Kass would win immunity and they would both be safe and only one possible winner would make the final four. Spencer or Tasha could both easily win the million and Trish is at best a 50/50 proposition.

That sums up my feelings about Tony. too. He’s loud and full of himself. Not someone I would enjoy being around.

You know, whenever there is some new wrinkle played for the first time, it seems to me that Probst tends to make up the rules as he goes.

So, if there is any possible different way the rules concerning the idol may work, my guess is that Probst will say the idol works in whatever way Probst wants it to work.

After all, Probst is pretty much the big boss now, so who is gonna oppose him? No one that I can imagine.

And … if he is being blantantly unfair, who is going to overturn his decision? I can’t imagine.

That is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read in this forum. Thank you for a good laugh!

What? You think the International Survivor Commission wouldn’t be able to over-rule the game show host?!?

Survivor is classified as a game show and as such there is a Standards and Practices authority on premises for the shooting. Everything is written out in advance and they can’t change anything up. It’s a nice conspiracy theory, but it isn’t happening that way.

I think Charlie Wayne’s obsession with Jeff Probst is silliness, but I do not think Survivor is classified as a game show. Big Brother was specifically classified as not a game show, but rather an entertainment show, and as such is not bound by rules that apply to game shows.

I see no reason why Survivor would be any different.

EDIT: Here’s a link; I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a cite, but it’s definitely a link. The description is “similar to professional wrestling.”

Consider this: Have you ever seen a game show where they don’t tell you exactly how much everybody wins? What does second place in Survivor win? It’s not 0.

I’m not sure what you’re asking. If Tony plays the regular Idol before votes are read, his votes don’t count, so it’s 2-2 for Tasha and Kass. Everyone (except Tasha and Kass) revotes, but they can only vote for Tasha or Kass.

They also said you can’t play the special Idol for another player, only yourself. I assume that includes a rule against outright transferring it as well (on the beach, before TC).

I seem to remember that it used to be that 2nd place got 100 grand and there was a declining scale after that. This was a plot point back in the Season That Is Never Mentioned when the used car salesman/porn star won because he was playing against morons and he convinced one moron to vote against another by telling her flat out he wouldn’t take her to the final but that she should vote with him because otherwise she would give up X dollars by coming in fourth instead of coming in third. (This was back when the final vote was between 2 players.)

I’ve come around on Tony. We see him brag a lot but that’s in the interviews where producers are prodding him to say interesting things. I don’t remember him bragging around camp much. He seems like an OK guy to hang out around and he really has made the season interesting.

This has been hotly contested in the past on the board, but I believe we came to the conclusion that you’re correct - it’s on par with professional wrestling, but without the predetermined aspect to it. I’m under the impression that individual episodes are regulated before shooting (Burnett can’t come out behind a palm tree after the votes are read to nullify a vote, but they can create a challenge that would likely favor a particular contestant).

Actually, I believe the prize structure is public knowledge.

My point wasn’t that the information is impossible to find, but rather that on actual game shows, the specific amount each and every contestant wins is essentially shouted in your face, repeatedly.

On Survivor, Big Brother and Amazing Race you have to do actual research to find out what anyone except the winner actually wins. (Or second place in the case of Big Brother.)

As a counter-example, Jeopardy 2nd & 3rd place contestants win $2000 & $1000 , but that’s never mentioned in the show.

It’s mentioned on every show. After the final answers are revealed, and the winner named, they show how much that person has won, along with the 2nd and 3rd place winners switching over to $2000 and $1000, respectively.

[Roseanne Roseannadanna]Never mind[/RR].

Ok, Family Feud then, They don’t tell you what the losing family gets, besides more strife at the Holidays.

Nitpick: Emily Litella, not Roseanne Roseannadanna.

Hell, half the time they don’t tell you what the WINNING family gets if they don’t win the Fast Money round (or what they get in addition if they do win). Took me a long time before I found out that the amount of points they get in the head-to-head portion gets turned into cash.