Keith, Keith, Keith. Didn’t you do the same thing last time-- couldn’t keep your mouth shut a TC? And it’s funny to watch him win the RC and have to pick players to go along with him. Not a strategic bone in his body.
But… it’s not so bad finally having Abi gone! Love her exit line about not having to deal with all those “crazy people” anymore.
“Crazy people” heehee
Has everyone lost interest? I was surprised there was no thread started on this.
I’m happy they got rid of Abi Normal the Brazil nut, but this season is pretty formulaic. Each week, the biggest threat goes home. The players talk about not putting a target on your back, but the optimal Survivor strategy is all about managing your perceived threat level.
Stirring up drama might “put a target on your back”, but it only hurts your game if it increases your perceived threat. Otherwise, it could help a player’s “unlikeable” trait, which improves their chance of being taken to the finals as a goat.
Stirring up drama by blindsiding your own alliance increases both “unlikeable” and “threat”. Abi’s unstable personality was exploited by savvier players until she become too dangerous to everyone’s game. Unfortunately for Abi, there aren’t any bigger targets around. Joe was ousted last week and Spencer has immunity. Abi was not strategic enough to realize this and execute the obvious move to save herself: shifting the target to Jeremy. Jeremy has high “likeability” and low “threat”, so an argument could be made that he will win it all if he makes it to finals.
The girls would have been smart to stick with the Girl Alliance. All the remaining men are threats at challenges. I was liking Tasha early on, but she’s really been irritating me lately. Spencer needs to chill the fuck out!!
Handicapping the finalists:
Spencer - I don’t really get the love he seems to have generated. Maybe it is because he reminds fans of themselves. Maybe not the strongest, but not weak. Not the best looking, but not bad. Maybe a little awkward socially, but also a lot smarter than average. He’s certainly playing the game better this time around, but to me that seems exactly what he is doing - playing the game. He strikes me as the kind of guy who, if he wasn’t in the game, might be a bit of a dick.
Still, has to be considered a favorite to win it.
Jeremy - He has to be the most likable Survivor left. Still, he really hasn’t excelled at any part of the game. Even in challenges, despite his strength advantage. Also a favorite, but a target, too.
Keith - Better at challenges than I would have expected, but no other skills at all. Nobody seems to even care about him, and I don’t either. Can’t see him winning but might get to the end because everyone thinks they can beat him. His speech at final Tribal Council would be a train wreck.
Tasha - Smart and capable, but like Keith she seems to be a middle-of-the-pack player. Her name rarely comes up in the “We have to get rid of this player” discussions. She’s not the least threatening, but never the most.
Wentworth - A lot like Jeremy. Really pretty (love those glasses!) but not great at anything. For some reason, she’s my darkhorse.
Kimmy - Gosh, I had to look it up on Wikipedia to even remember who the last one was. She just doesn’t have anything going for her. I have no clue why she was even picked for the show.
My odds:
Spencer 30%
Jeremy 30%
Wentworth 20%
Tasha 15%
Kimmi and Keith Eh, just divvy the 5% up any way you want.
Is it possible they will send 4 to the Final Tribal? That is, 4 finalists go in front of the jury?
Possible? Yes. Probable? I don’t think so.
Abi was interesting in the end because she was a self aware goat. That might have made an interesting final tribal.
I think they will. There are six people left and next week is the finale. I doubt they are going to cram in three eliminations.
I felt like Abi was much more self-aware this time than she was on her first season. She was still paranoid, abrasive, hateful and mean, but she was deliberately playing on those traits to go for the goat spot.
I was basing my question on
The announcement that “never before in the history of Survivor…” in he preview.
It’s either going to be a 10-person jury and three-person final, or 9/4. Either one would be a “never before” but I don’t see a 10-person jury being a big deal, so I’m leaning towards it having four finalists. Which is just asking for a split vote.
I actually gained a lot of respect for Abi this episode… she seemed fully aware that she was playing the “goat” that everyone would want to bring to the end. Honestly I think it’s a good strategy - if you can fully articulate “I knew I was never going to dominate in challenges or social maneuvering, so I purposely played the goat so people would take me to the end” I think it can garner some votes. Especially since she did have a hand in a lot of votes early on. I mean I’d certainly vote for that strategy over whatever the heck Kimmi and Keith are doing.
With six people left, two HIIs and the normal immunity, TC could turn into a crazy pile-up.
I still feel like the edit this season is pointing towards a Spencer win, and while I’m okay with him (I agree with Lamar Mundane on this… I’m not sure where his fanbase is coming from to seem this popular) I’m still rooting for Jeremy and Kelly over him. I don’t think the other three have a realistic chance at winning - Tasha seems to have burnt too many bridges with the jury members, and Kimmi and Keith are non-entities.
I thought “Brazil Nut” was very funny. I got a chuckle out of that.
You are very charitable. I wanted to post some other names for her. But I figured I’d get banned if I said what I truly want to say about her.
I don’t know why the “so-called” fans voted her in this season. I found her to be a constant pain in the neck all season. It wasn’t as if she ruined this season for me. She would have had to be a whole lot more powerful to do that.
But during every episode, I found myself wondering, "what can this explosive volcano do this week to mess up the plans of some good people - people who are much better players than her but stand to have their game ruined by her crazy antics.
I know that crazy miserable fools are a part of this game and a player who is truly better than she is would realize they just have to deal with the madness and do their best.
But I sure do wish the fans had never voted her in. She was just a constant irritant all season long.
“You wrote my name down - twice. Twice you wrote my name down.”
“You wrote my name down - twice. Twice you wrote my name down.”
“You wrote my name down - twice. Twice you wrote my name down.”
Oh for Pete’s sake, just shut the blank up and go blank yourself.
I studied computers for many years and worked as a software engineer. One of my hobbies was to manipulate contests using software. I have won a few really great prizes by creating software bots (robots) that would submit thousands of applications while I slept of voted thousands of times while I slept.
I suspect that one or two people who know how to create software bots just may have found a way to “beat the voting system” and a handful of people could be responsible for a majority of the votes.
Personally, I would never go to all the trouble (it takes a lot of time and work to create these things) just to vote someone onto a Reality show. I would never do all that work unless there was something really good in it for myself. In most cases, it would be a whole lot easier to just go out and buy a large screen TV - instead of spending a few days figuring out how to build a bot that works and then baby sitting the bot for several days while it does your bidding.
Yes. If she was truly self-aware that she was a goat, that was a clever strategy. At least it was the best strategy that she could have used. At least it was the best strategy that I can see for her.
But it was interesting that she was not suffiiently self-aware to call the other players “those crazy people” like she did in her parting remarks.
If she was truly self-aware, she wouldn’t have done that because she would have known that people would laugh at her and think she was a fool for saying that - considering that she was one of the craziest of them all.
In our two-person betting game that we do every Survivor, Zoe has already lost by picking Joe but my guy Keith is still going. I’m hoping he keeps sliding through and winning immunities. He’s been my favorite competitor since Donny Thompson from Big Brother 2014. They have similar “styles” and are way smarter than they put on. I’ve known quite a few folks just like them and they’re nobody’s fools.
And if Keith can’t win it all, then I’ll be hoping it’s Jeremy. He’s like The Shadow from Old Time Radio in that he “has the ability to cloud men’s minds so they cannot see him.” 
I can’t see Keith winning. He is so absolutely clueless about the social game, that I don’t see him garnering many, if any votes. As vindictive as people think they might be, most of the jury members seem to vote for who they think played the best, regardless if they wronged or not. Some hold a grudge, sure, but not most. Assuming it will be a minimum of 3 at the FTC, Keith loses to everyone except maybe Kimmy.
Yeah, Keith has no game besides playing the hell out of the challenges. I think he said he’s 50 years old and even when he doesn’t win a challenge, he’s often in second place, but man does he is absolutely clueless about the rest of the game.
Am I remembering incorrectly, or didn’t Keith pull some bone-head move at TC during his first season just like he did in this last episode? Shooting off his mouth when he should’ve just STFU, or just offered some noncommittal comment like the rest of them did? Seems to me if you get a 2nd chance, and play as if you haven’t learned a damn thing from your first time around, you absolutely don’t deserve to win the game.
Yeah, he basically gave away that he was secretly working with someone by telling him to “stick with the plan”, causing people in the other alliance to play a HII and get Keith’s son voted out.