This is the first Survivor I’ve watched since the Australian Outback one.
I think I may actually tune in next week.
I’m not sure who I dislike more - the arrogant men or the disorganized women.
I’m with you squeegee. Where’s DavidB? He should be able to tell us for sure.
I’d guess it might cuts down on the volume of creepy-crawlies, but doesn’t elimnate them completely. I know I wouldn’t last a week in the Amazon. I don’t do bugs very well at all. What kinds of nasty flora and fauna we can expect (or hope) the tribes will run into? (And if this was covered somewhere in the episode I apologize for asking; I missed the first part while talking to my mother.)
And how nice of Jeff to ask all the guys who they considered the hottest woman. I can’t wait for him to ask the women their opinions on the guys.
I love Christy, and I’m so irked at the way the others were (perhaps inadvertently) treating her. When they split into groups to work on shelter/fishing, would it have been so tough for one of them to tap her on the shoulder, look at her and ask if she wanted to build or fish? She would’ve understood and been able to assist them. There are some folks here who are arguing that the hearing folks shouldn’t have to extend that extra effort, but it’s not helping the tribe if they exclude a potentially helpful member.
The guys just annoyed me. They are far too fond of their machetes–can’t believe some of them brought them to the challenge! Would’ve been charming to see one of them fall on a machete while falling off the balance beam.
Could they have picked a weaker team of women? They really seem to have moved away from the attractive, physically fit people on this season.
If a fictional show had shown a group of women Survivors, whose first task was to boil water for laundry–it would have been ripped apart for being ridiculously sexist.
Good call by the women, to give the last leg of the IC – running up the net and sliding down the rope – to the gym teacher.
Any sense as to why the men dumped on Ryan, when it was Daniel who screwed up the worst–and was equally lazy and annoying?
And I like Rob, the computer schemer. He’ll be fun to watch.
My daughter came into the TV room during the immunity challenge. After watching the one team of guys fall repeatedly off the balance beam, she wanted to know if I was watching Survivor or The Mole.
Hmmm… There’s a thought. :rolleyes:
Guys are genetically predisposed to think machetes are awesome. Try it. Ask any guy if he believes a machete is awesome. Unless he has some DNA-defect, the answer will always be “yes.”
I wish I had a machete.
What? She knew what she was getting into when she applied for the show. She can’t expect everybody to pull her aside, directly focus on her, etc. to communicate with her the entire time. I hate to sound insensitive but this is Survivor and she should have put the responsibility of adapting onto herself.
Christy was isolated, sure, but she could have seen that happening way beforehand. She seems more hard of hearing rather than deaf, as she uses lip reading & a hearing aid (What is she going to do when it rains?), instead of a hearing aide (interpreter) & her voice, from what people said here is pretty normal (no deaf accent?) & she didn’t sign anything that I noticed. Lip reading is only around 30% accurate, so they might have given her written instructions for the game, but it seems more as if she was just following the others when they were playing it, as she couldn’t read lips during the game what with everyone facing forward.
I believe that she is old enough to know she should have picked someone to befriend & ask them to let her know what’s happening.
The height of arrogance had to be at TC, when one of the doofuses (Daniel?) was describing the hottie he was enamored with–but then said that after 3 days in the jungle without showering, she might not be so attractive.
Whereas he had been spending 3 days soaking in a bubble bath, no doubt.
You would think Christy would have realized the importance of getting 1 or 2 women who would make a point of including her. Or that at least one of the other women would have thought of it. Seems like it would have been a great strategy on both sides. Would be an easy way to develop an informal partnership at an early stage, and if done correctly wouldn’t develop a ton of hostility with others.
But as far as the group as a whole is concerned, the folk on these shows are pretty darn self-centered. Not saying that as an entirely bad thing - but their main focus is individual survival. It did not surprise me that making sure they incorporated the differently abled person was not high on their list of priorities.
handy, I noticed her speech, lack of signing, use of an aid, etc. But IIRC, she described herself as deaf, not hard of hearing, hearing impaired, etc. Is that not her prerogative to choose how to describe herself?
First time Survivor watcher here. When Jeffy was running through that obstacle course, it struck me as terribly complex and quick. My friend, who is way into Survivor, tells me that the contestants (or whatever they’re called) are walked through challenges like these and rehearse them off camera. Made lots more sense to me then.
I’m rooting for the district attorney girl. She seemed to be the only one with any common sense & the ability to articulate them.
I thought he said that after 3 days in the jungle, he wasn’t sure how attractive he would be to her.
handy, I believe she said that she was completely deaf in her right ear, and mostly deaf in the left. But I agree that she should have taken that huge opportunity to befriend a few others to be contacts for her. It would have been a strategic coupe.
jsc, InTransit is right, the “doofus” said that “he” would be unattractive, not “she”.
I used to have a machete.
It was awesome.
I haven’t watched much of the previous shows, but I like some of the contrasts they keep building with creative editing–the guys talking about how they’re macho, and tough, and there’s nothing they can’t handle, while they show one guy struggling to get the box open… or the women are sitting around, talking about how terrific it is that they’re not teamed up with guys, because all the guys would want to do all day is stare at their boobies, interspersed with Swimsuit Model girl talking about how that, actually, was going to be her strategy for staying in the game…
Okay, general impressions, to the extent that any have formed:
Women: They may be in some trouble here. While I think the challenges will be tailored to give them a good shot at winning, they really need to get their act together survival-wise. Somebody needs to take a leadership role, and that person will probably end up being Deena because nobody else seems to have a clue.
Jenna: Ha! Can’t win this game by sticking your boobs in other people’s faces! I’m not impressed with this one physically or mentally. Looks like a mid-game boot to me.
Heidi: See Jenna, except that this one has some intelligence going for her. Looks like she might be a fairly good contestant, but I don’t see her quite as F4 material.
Christy: My fave! Cute and obviously gutsy or she wouldn’t be there. She needs to start forming bonds now though. I’d say Deena is the one to start with, since that’s somebody who will see her value and who probably has a pretty good idea of how important alliances are. And suck up to Jenna so the younger set doesn’t latch on to Christy as the odd one out.
Deena: She has a clue, and she’s obviously someone who wants to be in charge. Could be a bit of a S4-Kathy type in that respect. If she puts an alliance together, I see her doing well. Could be the targeted by the men at first vote after merge.
Janet: Toast. Has a contestant who gets sick right away ever not been voted out at the first opportunity?
Shawna: No real impression. Obvious allies are the boob girls.
Jeanne: Not much of an impression, but might have something of a clue. Just thinking generationally, could ally with Deena.
Joanna: Looks strong and appears to be a good worker in camp. But I’m pretty sure the Jesus stuff is going to get on people’s nerves sooner or later. She will not make the jury, and may be the second or third woman voted off.
Men: Should do reasonably well on the survival stuff, but may not function very well as a tribe. They strike me as a repeat of the younger tribe from the Thailand show in a lot of ways, including the focus on shelter. Of course, that shelter looks like it’s going to be pretty useful, so it’s hard to criticize them on that.
Roger: Tone it down, dude. You keep that up, even the guys who were with you last night will toss your butt.
Butch: Looks like this guy will do pretty well. A leader, but not obnoxious about it–more of a rallier than a guy who issues orders. I suspect he’ll be the core of the guys’ main alliance.
Rob: I like this guy. He’s go good, funny observations, and he’s already plotting and scheming. He may end up being the one this year to plot and scheme too much, however.
Dave: Not playing the game like a rocket scientist, that’s for sure. The post-IC speech was a bad idea, as was being the only person to vote against Daniel. You’re isolating yourself, dude. My pick for the third guy out.
Daniel: As the other half of the Ryan-Daniel lazy boy alliance, he’s history next time the men go to TC. That balance beam performance was pathetic.
Alex: He was the fourth vote against Ryan, right? Other than that, no impression.
Matthew: Third vote against Roger, right? No impression, although if he was on the losing side, that’s a bad start.
Ryan: Made the mistake of strating the game by targeting a strong person instead of a weak one, and paid the price. S4-Sean has a message for you: Lazy alliances only work if you have a majority of lazy people.
I think it was because Ryan more or less took fault. I don’t think that was his intention, but he said the words, “We lost our lead in the Immunity Challenge, and if that was my fault, I’m sorry.” I don’t know that the others were blaming him for it at that point, but after he said that, I knew he would be voted out, because he made it easy for them to target him. I was actually surprised that he didn’t get more votes at that point.
The women’s lack of organization is embarrassing, but I was so glad they kicked ass at the I.C., if only to take the men down a peg or two.
I think that was the most genuinely amused I have ever seen Jeff at a Tribal Council.
Ryan was also the most annoying. While he did not fall off as many times as Dizzy Dan the Doofus, he fell off a few times too.
The girls, BTW, did not “kick ass” at the challenge. They fell so far behind that Jeff was opening cheerleading for them. Ugh.
If dizzy dan stays on the log (and doesn’t get made to do it over when he jumped off 2 inches from the end- nice bias Jeff) the girls get blown out. Amusingly enough, it was the first puzzle that caused all the grief for the women.
Also, the girl’s camp is a disaster.
Additionally, stupid survivor puzzle time has started. Cause that’s what survival is all about- assembling stupid puzzles. Damn I hate those damn puzzles! They make horrible TV. Take them out and the girls would have won by a landslide.
I would rather see balance and skill contests, but Survivor uses too many stupid puzzle games to “even stuff out”. The women are fine-- they don’t need any stupid puzzles. Grrrrrrrr.
:mad:
Thinking about Christy some more: the part where everyone walked away and she just stood there by the fire strikes me as really odd on her part.
Obviously the other women were going off to do some chores, and Christy could tell she missed something. Well, duh, just pick a group to follow and at an appropriate time tap someone on the shoulder and discreetly ask, “How can I help?”
Instead she just stood there by the fire feeling sorry for herself and playing victim. I really like Christy a great deal, but I hope she gets some clues going on how to handle those situations; they’re going to happen again and again, even if the other women have the best of intentions toward her.
True, but they did kick the men’s asses, which is what I meant to say.