Survivor: PI - 9/18/03 (Premier) - Probable spoilers

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If you’re on the west coast or elsewhere, read no further until after your episode airs, please. :slight_smile:

So, what do y’all think? Not a bad start…Drake looks good, Morgan looks like a bunch of doofuses (doofi?).

Is this the first time that a pretty girl who didn’t seem otherwise freaky was voted off first? Trying to team up with Lily to vote off someone she simply found annoying was a terrible move on Nicole’s part. I knew as soon as Lily spoke up about it that Nicole was done.

I’m putting money on Rupert to take it all. Dude, he’s wearing a dress and doing it with complete aplomb. I dig this guy. :smiley:

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The moment Rupert put on that skirt, I knew I was gonna love him. I think I saw him in a longer skirt at Jazz Fest earlier this year. :smiley: Although I think he came my instant favorite when he turned pirate right there in the village. That guy has style!!

What Nicole did was dumb, but what was really dumb about it was lying about the wrong person. Something tells me that our good scoutmaster is going to play this game straight or not at all, and Nicole really picked the wrong person to try to backstab.

I also think I’m gonna get tired of the naked guys real, real fast!

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That is, of course, he became my instant favorite.

Sheesh. Now I’m leaving off halves of words, too.

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I have been roped in. I never saw any of the other Survivors, but my husband was watching it and Rupert stealing the other teams shoes caught my I. Seeing as how tomorrow is National Talk Like A Pirate Day-- Yon rapscallion be Rupert the Fishkiller and he be stealing your booty. Arrrg.

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I’m glad Nicole is gone. I hope that Lily’s coming forward will help her position in the tribe.

I’m with you on Rupert but stealing the other team’s stuff was cold-blooded.

The 3 naked guys bothered me. It seemed incredibly gratuitous. However, it was funny when they showed the Immunity Challenge from the rear and the caption said “Morgan behind”.

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Spoilers regarding the “Next week on Survivor” clip just shown…

I guess you didn’t see the “Next week…” clip where Hagrid goes apeshit. A pity he can’t control his temper…

I loved Hagrid looting the booty left behind by the other team.

“Where did you get this from?”
“Pirated!”
yoink
Yarrrr…

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I mean “Aye, it captured me eye”.

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About that spoiler-- But he’s a counselor for minors!

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Truly, Nicole was a first degree dumbass. You’ve got six people standing around in a circle, and they’re all planning to vote off Ryan S. or Lillian, so you go to Lil and ask her to help you vote off Tijuana?

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Hard to tell about the tribes so far, but you’ve gotta like Rupert and his fish-killing skills. Drake seems to have things pretty together for the moment, and it’s hard to tell who might get killed first. Maybe Sandra, who doesn’t seem to be bonding with anyone, or maybe Jon the obnoxious clown.

On Morgan, Ryan S. and Lillian are as dead as can be. Osten needs to either seriously deliver or keep his head a bit lower. Same with Andrew the lawyer, who’s looking a bit like Hunter from the Marquesas show.

On the whole, a normal start. Whether any cool drama builds is still to be seen.

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Dang, I totally forgot about Rupert stealing from the other tribe in the village…that was awesome! And then he traded a pair of the sandals he stole for a pineapple. Hee!!

KRM, I noticed the same thing with the subtitle saying “Morgan behind”…especially since I had just noticed that they kept showing a different subtitle saying “Morgan trailing”, so it really leapt out at me. I laughed so hard, I scared the cat. :smiley:

I’m so geeked, I can’t even remember all the stuff I noticed. I thought that it was weird that both teams had to navigate the same course in the challenge rather than having two identical courses laid out side by side…it seemed rather unfair that the leading team had to do all of the work clearing the path of rocks and logs at that one segment, and then the trailing team got to take advantage. They’re usually better at setting things up so that both teams have to exert approximately the same amount of effort to win, not allow one team to take advantage of what the other team has already done. I guess it doesn’t matter in this case, since Drake wound up winning anyway…but I think it wouldn’t even have been close if Morgan had been forced to do their own work.

I also laughed and laughed with Morgan being too stupid to look at the map for the water location. And not building a platform to sleep on and getting their asses pinched by hermit crabs. Heh.

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Survivor is notorious for blowing minor things far out of proportion in the “On next week’s Survivor…” previews. It may not be only blown out of proportion, but taken entirely out of context as well, so that what they appear to be showing you wasn’t what they’re claiming at all.

And, as Biggirl has noted, Rupert is a mentor of troubled teens…I don’t think he has the temper that they’re trying to imply.

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Rubert’s definitely a player. Not only didi he steal the shoes, he also wore the skirt, and caught the fish. What’s more he knows he’s playing the game.

The Morgans look clueless in comparison to the Drakes. The Drakes worked with what they had and even when they made mistakes (getting stuck on the beach or neglecting to buy extra clothes or mosquito repellant) they got over it and overcame their problems. The Morgans on the other hand just floundered. (Here’s a clue, guys, you want to know where something is - look at the frickin map.) Things like the communal nudity and the coconut milk drinking were also stupid moves. Of course, based on past experience this means the eventual winner will be a Morgan.

Nicole’s move was plain stupid. She was part of the inside group and everyone was discussing whether to vote off Lily or Ryan first. So she goes to form an alliance with them. Even if she had been successful, all she would have accomplished would be to be one of the three people to be voted off first.

And how did they get the boats they took to the challenge? They certainly didn’t buy them in the village and I thought the whole point of the opening is that they wouldn’t have anything waiting at their camp.

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Burton - Seems ok. Almost indistinguishable from the other guys his age.

Christa - blow your nose. Unless you always sound like that. :eek:

Jon - lol shut up before someone shuts you up. Rob was a fluke last year - usually the funny guy doesn’t last too long.

Michelle - I like her. Seems real.

Rupert - He rules. :smiley: I’m afraid he’s going to be a little too emotional though. He also seems like he could run out of gas early.

Sandra - Seems pretty sharp. Like her so far.

Trish - Who knows. Seems OK so far.

Andrew - Seems sane. Gets naked. No.

Darrah - Who knows. Was only on camera for about ten seconds.

Lillian - Still there! :smiley: She seems ok, but I don’t see her lasting long.

Nicole - We hardly knew ye. Big mistake painting a target on yourself so early.

Osten - Pull 'em up! Sheesh.

Ryan O - Who knows.

Ryan S - Wimp on the outside and on the inside. Won’t last long.

Tijuan(d)a - Oh my, it’s Heidi in disguise! (is it just me, or does she look and sound a LOT like Heidi from last season) I don’t like her, mainly because I have a feeling she’ll be saying things like “Game on” and “calling people out,” a reality-show staple that I hate.

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Hagrid…err Rupert is gonna win this one, hands-down. That’s my first-episode prediction based on absolutely nothing other than the fact that I really like the big, hairy skirt-wearing lug. And he looks like Hagrid! What more could you ask for?

I also liked Sandra’s smart move of trading her necklace for the entire barbeque spread, including all the condiments and aluminum foil.

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Spoiler from next week’s preview:

My guess is someone loses the spear and Rubert gets pissed. And I’m picking Ryan S as the one who wants to go home.

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Too much blow in her nose was probably what caused it in the first place.

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I was going to write a bit about Jon being a troubled teen, but he’s freaking 29 years old! Dude, hold your tounge and act your age. The way he was going on I thought for sure he was a college frat boy.

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It wasn’t just you. She’s like Heidi’s twin. During the first close-up interview with her, I just couldn’t believe it. She had the same vacant bug-eyes. The same big showy boobies. The same slightly whiny vocal quality. The same aura of general stupidity. Even her upper lip moved the same way! It’s really very freaky.

I absolutely loved this premiere. The twist with them having to go with only the clothes on their backs and then try to figure out what they needed to get was great. And when Rupert pirated the other tribe’s shoes…well, I was so darn excited I literally jumped up and down.

But, I think the evil genius Mark Burnett has pulled another twist on us. I started to suspect it as he was dividing up the tribes, and over the course of the show, I became more and more convinced that I was on to something.

I think he deliberately split the tribes according to level of doofus-ness.

I’m thinking he took his best guess as to who would be the most competent, cooperative, intelligent, and strong, and who would be the most whiny, inept, and backstabbing. (Of course, you can’t really tell how people will be once they get out there, but you can come close–as I said, I had a good guess about who would be lame during the tribe assignments–before we got to know any of them at all.) He obviously put the stronger players on Drake, and the weaker ones on Morgan.

Drake got a Spanish-speaker!. Drake got Hagrid. Drake got those two guys who’ve elected themselves leader. Those two may be cocky and annoying, but they’re certainly smart, strong, and effective. I didn’t see too many obvious liabilities except for that jokester guy, but he seemed to hold his own in the immunity challenge. And all of the members of Drake tried to work as a team, and it seems to have paid off so far.

In contrast, Morgan got a bunch of idiots who won’t work as a team. They got the guy that ran off by himself when they got to the town. They got Mr. “Show 'em your tits, and I’d love to show you my ass.” They got Tijuana, who is shaping up to be a first-class bitch. The got wimpy noodle Ryan. They got the scout leader. What a tool! (can you call a female a tool? I guess if the female happens to be a Boy Scout, you can.) They didn’t think to look on the map for the water source! They slept right on the ground! They got naked for no apparent reason! (Though Jenna got naked for no apparent reason and won the whole thing, so maybe they’re on to something…)

Anyway, that’s my theory. I can’t wait to see if I’m right.

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Jenna’s nudity was definitely a calculated strategy. She knew that by flashing the men they would avoid voting against her as long as possible. And it worked.

But the men are idiots if they think this strategy will work for them.

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Oh, shoot. I forgot to say why I think it’s a brilliant ploy.

First of all, it will be highly entertaining to watch the doofuses acting like total fools. And the non-doofuses are still likely to do all the sniping and grating on each other that we’d expect from any other tribe.

Second, and more importantly–by making one tribe so much stronger (if that’s indeed what he did), he makes it very likely that the strong tribe will win most immunity challenges. In previous seasons, each tribe voted off some of the strongest players before the merge, and they went into the merge with fairly even numbers. If the weak tribe has to vote someone off most weeks, then the strong tribe will go into the merge without having voted off any members that seem to be a threat to win. And the number of remaining members of each tribe will be unbalanced–so that the merged tribe will basically be the same as the original strong tribe. If it goes according to plan, it will totally mess up the way the voting-off process usually goes, force some different types of immunity challenges, keep more stronger players in the game until much closer to the end. Outstanding.