Survivor Season 30 (spoilers)

Dan and Sierra would not vote in the tie-breaker, it would be Mike, Carolyn, Rodney and Will. I’m guessing a split vote again, then Dan going home on the final vote rather than drawing rocks.

But why would any one get the idea that either of them could start winning challenges at this late date? Neither of them have given even an average performance in any of the individual challenges so far.

Yeah, this is right (my bad). I guess the hindsight 20/20 play for Dan/Will/Rodney should have been to use the advantage to bluff Carolyn into playing her idol (assuming they could logically figure out that she had it) and put their votes on Sierra instead. Then they could vote out Carolyn/Mike in either order after that, since it’s to their advantage to go to the end with each other.

Prediction for the final immunity challenge:

Jeff: “Will, Rodney, Sierra, and Carolyn/Mike, welcome to your final immunity challenge. The person who is most abusive to the remaining contestants and jury members will win.”

HAH!
If I’m Sierra/Carolyn, it would give me an advantage in numbers to be the best available choice at that point in the game. That means keeping Mike around for the last tribal (not the final tribal though) While it’ll open the door for Mike, it also give the others a 75% chance of getting him out.

Whoever of Carolyn or Mike who doesn’t get immunity.

Gotta love that Dalton Ross:

This is the least likeable cast in recent memory, but I’d have to vote for Mike or Mama C. They’ve played the best game IMHO. Made the right moves at the right time, won immunity when they needed it most.

What really bugs me about this show now is that the worst players are kept around because the better players know they can win against them at final tribal.

Will has done nothing the whole game, except attack Shirin and high five Rodney. He’s still there because everyone knows they can win against him.

Rodney thinks he’s smart, thinks every strategy thought he has is brilliant. They’re laughing at him behind his back. Can’t wait to see his “Bro” reaction at the live reunion.

:smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:

Maybe I’m way off base here, but I don’t see Rodney getting zero votes if he makes it to the final. You never know for sure, but some jurors do vote for game-play over personality, and whether he’s played well or not, at least he’s playing. Hell, if it’s Rodney/Sierra/Will, he could even win. Rodney’s the only one of those three who has done anything.

IMHO, the able-to-win order goes like this:

  1. Mike
  2. Carolyn
  3. Sierra
  4. Rodney
  5. Will

Each person can beat the people below them on the list. The only close-call, I think, would be between Mike and Carolyn, but I put Mike in first because he’s got all of those friends on the jury and has a great underdog story to tell.

(Although Dan would rather die than vote for Mike. Have you all seen his Ponderosa video and read his exit interviews? The man is seriously mentally ill or something. It’s rare to see delusion that extreme.)

So my prediction, next boot will be Carolyn, because Mike will win immunity. Then Mike wins immunity again, and I don’t know what happens at that vote. Doesn’t really matter, though, because at that point Mike has made it to the final three and he easily beats Sierra, Rod, or Will. I base this prediction on interviews with Probst in which he has called the winner “iconic” and “very likeable,” and I don’t think Carolyn fits that description as well as Mike. Certainly none of the other three do.

If Mike does lose immunity at some point, Sierra would be an idiot not to go vote him and Carolyn out…her goal right now should be to get to the end with Rodney and Will.

Everything hangs on that final four immunity challenge.

The other thing about Rodney… isn’t he supposed to be a firefighter? I’d hate to be in a burning building where he was my only means of rescue. Did you see him flailing about with that grappling hook? He absolutely sucks at the challenges. I don’t think anyone is worse than he is.

Somehow, I don’t think that’s a scenario worth theorizing. :wink:

It’s not a half bad argument - at least the way they’ve presented it, Rodney looks like he was the one who made the current alliance (keeping the blues together, bringing in Will and Carolyn/Tyler). Beyond that, though, he hasn’t done much, and I can only imagine his constant whining would possibly turn people around him. Sierra’s been such a non-factor though that it’s hard to gauge what people think about her.

Hmm, I kinda thought Probst might not know the overall winner since the votes aren’t read until the live finale in the States. Obviously someone on the crew has to take care of the votes between here and now, and someone probably has to look at them just to make preparations/verify/etc but I wasn’t sure they would let Probst in on it.

Rodney is a salesman for a general contractor. Here’s his facebook page. Apparently he and Dan have been hanging out.

I don’t know it for a fact, but I’d bet a lot of money that Probst knows the winner within minutes of the votes being cast. After all, they need to check right away in case there’s a tie, and Probst is more than just a host. He’s an executive producer and has a ton of power in how the show is run. Plus he needs to know so he can nuance all his show hype and promotions just right.

Probst reads the votes right away (or a producer does), because they stack the voting pages prior to the reveal for maximum drama.

Something I just remembered, I got a chuckle out of Probst during the word scramble challenge an episode or two ago:

“I say the same 200 words over and over and over. I’m in therapy for saying the same words so much.”

I don’t think he’s fully kidding. I remember maybe a decade ago interviews where he explained how Burnett put the repetitive phrases in there intentionally – always say the same things at the same times to instill continuity into the show – and how it drove him up a wall even then.

That reminds me, I really really REALLY want to know what they would do for a tie Final Jury vote on Survivor.

Split the pot? Re-vote months later in Los Angeles after everyone sees the show? Or would they break the illusion of him taking the votes off to LA for later, and have everyone re-vote then (on location)? Would they even show us, the viewer, that there was a tie, or just cover it up and make it look like the original vote?

That’s my guess.

The final vote is always done by an odd number of people. But if there are 3 finalists, there could well be a tie.

That’s one reason why some people hate the shows (or seasons) where there are 3 finalists. I never understood why Jiffy introduced this format. But I fear that Jiffy’s ride on Survivor has made him truly nuts and I’m interested to see how he behaves once this show is cancelled.

He has enough money to just live in comfort and luxury for the rest of his life. But his self image is now that of a living god. I just wonder if he will try to start a political party and make a run for the Presidency. His talk show didn’t work out very well. So maybe he will try politics next.

Whatever he does, it’s bound to be fascinating. After all, there have been several people in history who thought they were living gods and decided to change the world with the force of their will.

I don’t know if Jiffy Boy is that crazy. But I think there is a good chance he may well be.

I have followed Jeff on Twitter for years and he has dropped a lot of insider/innerworkings information over the years.

A producer(used to be Burnett, but I think he has assigned someone else) does go through them, but Probst does get to know before the reveal. Helps with the drama. However, he doesn’t know about any idols about to be played, etc.

It was a joke fully. He is known as “one take Probst” because he almost always nails the long game descriptions and all other stuff in one take. He does this by using the same phrases for key moments.
I will call BS on the game, though. “Reward with all the fixins’” is terrible and hard to think of. He always says, “steak and potatoes with all the fixins” or “barbeque feast with all the fixins”. The exact phrasing they used was hard to think of.