Looks like merge happened after 3 Tagi and 3 Pagong were booted. Winner was Richard from Tagi. Totals: 0-0-1 and 3-3 meaning number of members were tied at the merge and 3-3 meaning 3 players from each tribe were booted before the merge.
OK. Looks like merge happened after three members of each tribe were booted. Winner was Tina. Totals: 0-0-2 and 6-6 meaning in two seasons, number of members were tied at the merge and 6-6 meaning 6 players from each tribe were booted before the merge.
Looks like in S3 two Borans and four Samburu were booted giving Boran a 4-2 advantage. Ehan Zohn won and he was a Boran. So the larger tribe won. Totals: 1-0-2 and 10-8 meaning larger tribe won in one season and the other two seasons were tied.
Before the merge, 5 Maraamu and 1 Rotu were booted. The winner was Vecepia from Maraamu. So, the running total is now 1-1-2 and 11-13. Player totals were: 11-13 (the smaller tribe has the lead now)
Before the merge, 2 Tambaqui and 4 Jaburu were booted. The winner was Jenna from Jaburu meaning the winner was from the smaller tribe. Totals are now: 2-2-2 and 18-20.
I’m getting tired of this. After six seasons, the numbers are almost dead even. They are just too close to make any call. If anyone else wants to carry on, be my guest. But I’m satisfied there is no decisive conclusion except that Charlie Wayne is just too lazy to do another 24 seasons. At least it feels that way to me.
It’s happened more than once over the years, and in my opinion it’s never a wise choice. (One exception: Brandon Hantz, who was dangerously psychotic. The tribe didn’t even throw the challenge; they told Jeff they wanted to forfeit so they could get rid of Brandon. Jeff held a makeshift TC right then and there and they booted him on the spot.)
Just last season, A knucklehead named Drew took it upon himself to throw an Immunity Challenge because he thought he’d have the support to vote off someone he didn’t like. Turned out *he *was the one who went home. Oops.
Without going into all the detail that Charlie did, the winner has come from the tribe with the numbers advantage at the merge 13 times, and from the smaller tribe 8 times. Sometimes most of the smaller tribe get Pagonged and the one remaining member gets all the jury votes.
(It’s not totally clear-cut because they sometime do tribe swaps and mini-merges.)
This was always my impression. The best strategy as a tribe is to stay strong (not necessarily physically strong) and win as many challenges as you can. Then it gets more social, but the winner seems to be the most socially skilled member of the strongest tribe. I can only think of a couple of times where someone came into a strong tribe and ended up winning. I can’t think of her name, but she was a tall hot brunette in an early season. There was also a guy (Brian?) who went to a tribe full of women and kinda crushed things.
Without going into all the detail that Charlie did, the winner has come from the tribe with the numbers advantage at the merge 13 times, and from the smaller tribe 8 times.
Good work, and you too Charlie. Sure, going in with the strongest tribe is not a assurance of winning, but it’s a solid strategy that often works.
Season 9 (Vanuatu) was Men vs. Women. Chris Daugherty was the last man left shortly after the merge, and ended up winning. Tall hot brunette in an early season may have been Jenna Morasca (Amazon), the first Men vs. Women season.
I was thinking the tall brunette might be Danni Boatwright, from Guatemala. Her tribe was in the minority at the merge, but she kept her head down, and played nice while they were all voted out, then watched the majority alliance self-destruct.
They have had three tribes a few times. A couple of times, one of the three got so small it was subsumed into the other two before the merge. The last time, the three tribes stayed separate till the merge, and two were going to gang up on the third, but someone flipped. You’d think having your tribe dissolved around you would be a problem, but it didn’t stop Denise or Malcolm when it happened in the Philippines.
One advantage of losing a lot of challenges pre-merge is that the bigger tribe doesn’t really get a chance to vote out the people they aren’t happy with. They feel they have numbers to burn, and start taking out each other before they are done finishing off the minority.
Man, I was so confused during almost the entire first episode wondering why they skipped tribal council. I didn’t realize they went back to separate reward/immunity challenges until the end of the immunity challenge.
The immunity challenge in the second episode was funny as hell. When Jenn and Hali were struggling to return the sled after the first leg while at the same time you could see Joe and Rob hauling ass with their sled in the other direction, seemingly with the video for them on FFWD, I couldn’t stop laughing.
Bonus for that second episode immunity challenge for me was that it was a rare occasion where I was confident that people I wanted to see gone would be voted out regardless which tribe lost. Though to be honest, I would have preferred seeing the wacky chick voted out before the icky foot wart guy. I had to FFWD through her Star Spangled Banner rendition due to terminal douche chills.
Just when I thought Dan was becoming less hatable he made me once again want to punch him in the face. Loved how the editors sandbagged him with that confessional bragging about how great he is talking with women right before he crashed and burned. While Mike may have been a bit condescending and chauvinistic in his advice to Dan (“Women don’t want to hear an explanation, they just want to hear ‘I’m sorry’ so they can believe they’re right”) he wasn’t entirely wrong.
What total number of people are there when they typically merge? 11? Right now there are 13 left, so if it’s 11 I’m thinking two more from the red tribe (wacky chick, then Will, maybe?) and then the merge.
Right now I’m liking/rooting for Jenn, Joe, Hali, Kelly (stitches girl), and the lone woman left on the Blue tribe.
Previews for next week:Looks like the assholes gravitate to each other as Rob and Joaqin become a tight bromance, putting a target on their back. I’d love to see those two guys get voted out sooner rather than later, so that works for me.
Man, the red tribe really got shafted on the tribe merge. Blue gets all the tall, muscular dudes (and the tallest woman), red gets all the short women, Will, and just voted off their tallest guy (not that Max was very athletic). I doubt Red Tribe wins another challenge before the merge.
Also, I’m learning so much about women from this show! Dan, you’re a fat, strangely-bearded postal worker. I doubt you know how to talk to women. More like you read an article and figured you were an expert. Loved watching his little chat with Sierra blow up on him.
I’m sure that I’m missing something but why would you kill a chicken when you have three chickens and a rooster? What good is a rooster except for eating? The chickens all lay eggs.
Based on earlier seasons, both the contestants and producers (and many posters to these threads) seem to think that you need roosters to make chickens lay eggs. Up until the Survivor thread from many seasons ago when chickens were first awarded, I didn’t really understand how that worked either.
For anyone as ignorant as I was, eggs are essentially hen period. Hens lay them all the time just like women have periods every month. Roosters fertilize the eggs, which means they really should eat that rooster or they’re going to be getting some surprises when they cook their eggs:
“My yolk’s runny.”
“I’ll trade ya; my yolk is a fetus.”
My guess is that the producers include a rooster as a free meal, but I think it would be more interesting to only give them hens so there isn’t a free choice.
For an expert on the game, Max’s social game was shit. Will he still be teaching a class on Survivor after this? (It’s what he did before going on the game). Who would take a course from a guy who got voted out pre-merge?
The one tribe may have all the women except for Will, but they do have two Immunity Idols over there.
Oh right, good catch. That will be interesting. Especially because both idols (Jenn and the not-crazy white collar lady) are currently in a single five-person alliance.
Based on the idea that the yellow tribe rewards were moved to the winning tribe’s camp, it seems any previously-won blue and red rewards stayed in their respective camps. Meaning red still has the chickens.
Yeah, for all his memorizing every episode, he missed the two biggest rules - don’t ever be comfortable, and don’t be the guy everyone on your tribe dislikes (aka the Hantz rule).
Aren’t Roosters tough? Back when it was just three of us for T-Giving dinner, Mom would roast a Capon (Castrated Rooster) instead of a turkey.
I don’t think egg layed would be around long enough for much of a fetus to develop.
I think Carolyn is probably playing the best game and she has an idol in her pocket.
One of the problem I have with the Tribe switched is that Joe won those chickens on the Red (No) Collar. But now he is on the blue tribe and those chickens are at the other beach.
I figured either Jenn or Hali or Joe would have a problem with killing the chicken. Was pretty sure Will would not have a problem with it though.
I do not like the Blinds Man Buff challenges, and I actually felt a little sorry for Morticia when she was taking so many shots to her midsection. Not sure why when they had an object that she didn’t use it as stick to find the obstacles.
Was anyone else disturbed that they made everyone, including Kelly, keep their blindfolds on while they were diagnosing her injury? I get that they didn’t want to let them see where the target items were, but at least take Kelly’s blindfold off - turn her around if you don’t want her to see anything.