It’s one thing to voice a (hijacked) opinion and it’s another to state it in an inappropriate thread and yet another to say it with such venom…and then never even return to perhaps explain.
Curious to see how she justifies not only the content of her post but also why she felt the need to hijack a thread with such a completely rude comment.
God forbid a parent (of either gender) should choose to stay home and raise the child they had a hand in creating. :rolleyes:
I also agree with Hello Again. Feminism isn’t about insisting that women never do traditional things–it’s about making sure that women have a range of choices in front of them. Every family is going to make the choice that works best for them. For my mom, it was full time work, and daycare for us kids. It worked out great for all of us. For me, it’s staying home and working from home. For my sister, it’s work/daycare. Each family has made the choices that work best for them. It’s not a statement about resisting boring, traditional values, or staying barefoot and submissive. It’s about looking at what will feed and house your family and give everyone what they need to stay sane and happy. I thank whatever gods there may be that we have that choice. And I have very little respect for people who have merely replaced one “proper” way for women to live their lives with another one.
Gosh, I’ve been waiting for over a month to add to a thread just like this one, ever since we were treated to Suspenderzzz’ oh-so-“liberated” opinions in this thread.
Gosh, I’m sorry. I knew I should have had a few beers first.
Honestly, this is an issue I feel strongly about. I consider myself a feminist, and I stay home with my kids. I get treated to WMs who think I’m stupid and uneducated and lazy, or somehow betraying feminist principles, and SAHMS who assume I agree with them that WM’s are neglecting their kids. It infuriates me to no end. (Not all WM’s, and not all SAHM’s, mind you, not by a long shot–just enough to make me see red when the topic comes up.)
The truly conventional, bourgeouis lifestyle, it seems to me, is to assume that there’s somehow one proper choice, and then look down your nose at someone whose circumstances or personal preferences lead them to make a different one. You can be a fifties chauvinist insisting women stay home and bake cookies, or a well-off city girl insisting that women who stay home and bake cookies are anathema–but it’s two ends of the same pendulum swing, and all the same chauvinism. It’s ironic that Suspenderzzz considers herself so unconventional, and is so deeply wedded to convention herself. She wants so much to be free of societal constraints, and apparently tells herself that she is, but she’s just as much a slave to convention as the people she disdains.
I am pretty much in the same boat as Jar…
I don’t have a child yet, but I am doing everything I can do now so that when I do have a kid, I can stay home.
That however, is neither here nor there in regards to this thread.
Suspenderzzz.
Ok, you want to be a feminist and not tied down to a man…
Whatever floats your boat. While I personally don’t agree to your ideas about what feminism is, it doesn’t matter, you see.
You live your life in accordance to what’s best for you and I will do the same.
You can in to that thread purposesly to throw shit in the fan and you know it.
Did you really think that the majority of the people here would not take offense to that?
So if you want to fling shit around, have at it in this thread. I’ll ask again, though I doubt you you will answer:
what is your problem with Stay at Home Moms, especially when it has NOTHING to do with your life?
IMHO, she’s just a screwball. Like she said in the marriage thread, she likes to make fun of people who live traditional lives. Making fun of people who choose a different lifestyle than you do is rude, at a minimum, and sick, at a maximum. It comes across to me that she has to disrespect other people in order to feel good about herself. In the post office thread she jumps to an erroneous conclusion at the beginning and stubbornly hangs on to a false premise to the bitter end. It was far more important to her to make me out to be a nosy busy-body than to even consider that I was not.
Re: the stay-at-home mom thing: I think she has real issues about relationships, and mothering, etc. She doesn’t understand that in a good relationship, neither partner “gives up” his/her identity, but that the two forge a “new” identity ~ sometimes I can actually feel myself and my sweety as being one person. And it’s not suffocating, it’s liberating. Sometimes I think she’s scoffing at SAHM’s because she doesn’t have the courage to do it.
I had hoped, however, after reading her post in this child neglect thread that she could learn that other people’s positions on issues could be valid even if she disagreed with them. I still hope I’m not wrong.
I agree Bren, choice is what is important. It doesn’t matter what people end up choosing, that’s their business, but the fact that there is a choice is what enhances life.
I just posted this in that other thread, but it applies here as well, so I am going to post it here also. I assume since I said it, I can post it here too? If not, mods please feel free to delete it.
I don’t think genie would object, but if so…like I said, feel free to delete it.
Just wanted to bellow a hearty AMEN to this statement.
I am sick and tired of people putting other people into boxes because THEY say that is the box YOU should be in. Whether it be a “You should stay HOME with your kids” box, or a “You aren’t fulfilling yourself IF you stay home with your kids” box.
BOTH are wrong. Putting people in BOXES is wrong. When are we as a society going to GET that?
