Synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh, 2018 October 27

So the guy’s not just a fake rabbi, but a discredited fake rabbi whom even the other fake (Messianic) rabbis don’t respect. :rolleyes:

Way to go, Mike Pence! You sure know how to pick 'em. Kind of like how you picked, well, you know… :dubious:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/34089/concealed-carry-holder-stops-shooting-school-event-ryan-saavedra

To call it a myth is a bit hyperbole.

…:dubious: someone should tell you that we are talking about the modern world, modern banks, and modern churches…

I was saying why you aren’t going to find manye non-affiliated churches with large buildings, they have trouble getting a loan from a bank if they are not backed by the larger church hierarchy.

In any case, some form of banking has been around since well before christianity was a thing, and even fractional reserve banking has been around longer than the US.

That would be the case, it appears.

This whole thing’s almost as hilarious as the wingnuts’ attempt to create a bogus rape accusation against Mueller. (Your Mueller thread, starting at about post #7234 and getting better from there as the juicy details come to light. :D)

k9, imma let you finish but the Catholic Church has some of the biggest cathedrals of all time! Of all time!

Well, those didn’t need bank loans. There were wealthy patrons who wanted to buy their way into heaven and thousands of craftsmen, artisans, and workers who wanted to work their way into heaven.

I don’t understand here. Are you saying that the catholic church is not a large organization, and that the cathedrals were built by some crank priest?

all I meant was that your typo “manye” was similar to “Kanye”.

If it helps any, it got a legit laugh from me, Ludovic.

It’s called a joke, son.

It seems nitpicky and small, but I just saw photos of the event for the first time. Is no one else bothered by the fact that it was totally inappropriate to wear a tallit in that scenario? Fake Rabbi or not get the basic details right.

Too minor when he was a fake to begin with? Probably. But it really is bugging me. It’s just an added layer of weird signaling nonsense.

Any word back yet from Pence or the person that picked the defrocked fake rabbi about the little gaff?

Well, if he wasn’t wearing a tallit, it wouldn’t provide the required visual statement of “Look! Republicans totally aren’t anti-Semitic! Really!” Which was clearly the real purpose of this shmo’s presence on the platform.

Worst.
Cosplay.
EVAR!

Pence passes buck, says candidate invited fake fake rabbi. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a24472908/mike-pence-fake-fake-rabbi-pittsburgh-shooting/ I mean, honestly, you couldn’t find a real rabbi to pray for the victims of an anti-Semitic attack? Actually, perhaps they wouldn’t have been able to: “Members of the Michigan Board of Rabbis are not participating in political campaigns,” Rabbi Marla Hornsten, former president of the Michigan Board of Rabbis, told NBC News. Recall that the fake fake rabbi mentioned a number of Republicans running for office (about 3:50), but not one of the victims in his speech. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4757811/rabbi-loren-jacobs-messianic-synagogue-shema-yisrael-offers-prayer-vp-pence-speaks-michigan ) That said, numerous rabbis in the area could have offered a prayer according to Rabbi Elyse Wechterman. Though no endorsements I guess.

The candidate herself is pretty weird: Never Go Full Trump: The Lena Epstein Story - TPM – Talking Points Memo

And it took almost 5 years? What an incompetent justice system.

I don’t know the specifics of the delay in this case. It could be for a lot of reasons other than incompetence’s. In addition, COVID shut down trials in many jurisdictions for a couple of year. The justice system has many goals that take priority over speed.

“Justice delayed is justice denied” is a classic quote attributed to William Gladstone from the 19th century. Witnesses forget and/or die over a 5 year period. And if the defendant is innocent that means he spent a lot of time in jail awaiting trial which he will never get back.

This is all true, in general. In this case, in addition to COVID, there could have been delays for psych evaluations of the defendant. I’ll grant you five years is a long time without a compelling reason. But it appears that justice was done eventually, despite delays.

Looks like another such shooting was averted.