I liked that answer.
I would kinda like an answer to this question.
(And it’s possible that I did just tell you my gender; but I wouldn’t count on it. Looking at my pronouns would be a lot more reliable guide.)
So? Most do. We get to talk about it if it applies to us.
But not in a way that excludes people. You don’t see the problem with “my cis physical traits tell you I’m a woman without me having to tell you my gender identity”?
I’m sure OP intended no malice, but “tell me you’re a woman without telling me you’re a woman” logically implies that there is a way to know if someone is a woman other than her telling you her gender identity. At a minimum that implies stereotypes of gender expression, at worst it could be interpreted as transphobic.
What are the list of things masculine things men aren’t supposed to talk about in order to not offend Transmen? There’s plenty of tone policing of what women aren’t supposed to say to avoid offending a small minority of people, but I never see men being held to that expectation.
The issue is the exclusion of diversity, which is the opposite of telling people they can’t talk about stuff.
It’s a common meme that has been going around for the last couple of years. Common versions of the meme are “tell me you’re a mom without telling me you’re a mom” or “tell me you are LGBTQ without telling me that you are LGBTQ”. Then everyone who is a part of that group lists whatever stereotypical trait they have as a part of that group.
Pretty much. The point is for everyone to list whatever stereotypical trait they have, so questioning the stereotype goes against the entire point of the thread.
It’s a rather shallow TikTok type of thing. If you are putting any actual thought into it you are probably doing it wrong.
Google “tell me without telling me meme” if you want more details.
Poking around on google, it looks like someone actually made a real life card game out of the meme.
Yeah, the problem here is not that anyone is unfamiliar with the meme.
This makes me wonder why you posted that you weren’t sure what the thread is about. If you are familiar with the meme then it’s pretty obvious what the thread is about. It’s meant to be a bit of fun.
If only I had explained my concerns.
The reason I first posed it as a more neutral question was because there are other (positive) directions it could have gone, such as this:
But when the first few posts are gender expression stereotypes and “I had periods” and you appear to be condoning that as a good idea - yeah, good luck with the “bit of fun” thread.
What is preventing trans woman from participating? Nothing. But you want to suppress comments because you perceive the mention of body parts is offensive to those without? Do you speak for woman or trans woman? No you don’t. Butt out.
Go play here
To my mind, “I menstruate” as an indicator of womanhood is more of a problem for transmen than for transwomen.
AFAIK, we only have one trans woman left on the SDMB. There’s a reason for that. This thread is not helping.
But you could say the same about pretty much everything, couldn’t you: There are women who don’t do X, and/or people who do X but aren’t women, no matter what X is?
I don’t know whether that makes this a threadshit, and if so, if this is a thread that ought to be shat. When I read the OP last night soon after it was posted, I thought, “Uh oh, is that really a good idea? Could be harmless fun, I suppose, but could too easily turn into a cavalcade of sexist stereotypes.”
But has that eyebrow been waxed or threaded?
Boy the fun part of this thread sure evaporated.
Why is this thread such a downer and the “tell me you’re a man” thread going so well?
It’s not even noon and I’m already disappointed in men.
I would expect a trans woman could make many contributions to this thread.
Sorry to hear your dismissal of their participation.
Say what now?
When I must walk at night in an urban area I walk in the middle of the street and constantly scan for male people who might attack me.