well ok i was being snarky that even though they have clothes and makeup empires and the tv show it seems if they need a boost in attention someone wears something skimpy or poses “artfully” nude in a fashion mag or shows up to a red carpet event in a see-through dress …although its the younger pair that seems to do the last a lot more recently
Maybe they just like being near nude?
And - that’s my quota of defending the horrible, for the next 12 months.
Bizarre as it may sound, I think that Kanye and Kim actually have a healthy, stable relationship. They both agree on what they want out of the relationship, and they’re both OK with that, and they’re both getting it. It’s just that what they both want is attention, more than affection.
And how do the Kardashians make their living, if not by posing nude or near-nude?
Kim doesn’t have to take her clothes off to command 6 figures for a public appearance. They get paid more to keep clothes on, I’m sure. Kendall Jenner is the highest paid model in the world and that isn’t all Victoria’s Secret, quite a lot is fashion work.
Their main TV show has been running for 11 years. With many spinoffs. That can’t be chump change.
And they sell a shitload of actual products - clothes, makeup, fragrances. Kylie, the youngest, is also by far the richest, most of that off makeup.
TBH, like I said, I hate the Kardashians, but I hate this kind of criticism of them way more, coming as it does with the unmistakable whiff of slut-shaming, and hence being essentially misogynistic in character.
Christian music isn’t merely music performed by a Christian. It’s music performed for the purpose of proselytizing or glorifying the religion. Using your definition, yeah there’s a ton and probably a significant portion of all music made in the US is Christian music. If you use my definition, the ratio of good to bad Christian music is pretty low.
I like the PJ O’Rourke line from Holidays in Hell when he visits a music store at the Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker theme park Heritage USA.
Sorry, quotas reset every calendar year.
Not he’s right. There are quite a few artists that have been outwardly Christian and performed Christian music by your definition but are not known primarily as Christian music. Elvis, Johnny Cash, Ray Charles. Kansas had many songs with Christian themes without specifically naming Jesus but they are known as rock not Christian rock.
Well, yes, the Kardashians make money for clothed appearances, too, but only because they’re famous. And so far as anyone can determine, they’re famous for doing porn videos.
And I wasn’t surprised to see that he made an appearance on Joel Osteen’s program.
Of course, only God knows what’s in Kanye’s heart, but I just think this guy will do almost anything for publicity.
Wait until they find out he is bipolar and he thinks he is jesus.
The guy is having serious psychiatric problems in public and we just laugh at him. It sucks.
I remember listening to Late Registration by Kanye in about 2004, I was blown away by what a great album it was.
I still listen to it and love it.
I just have to forget about what Kanye has now become, he’s mentally ill imo. I also love Kate Bush but found out she’s a Tory 
This almost sent me over the edge, along with finding out that Tracey Emin is also A member of the Blue Party.
I’ve just had to separate my mind from the fact that Bush created beautiful music when young and had no money. She, like Emin, grew rich and forgot their roots. They got rich and became Tory 
KW, I think he’s just ill. Mentally ill, no judgement held here upon him.
I still adore listening to Late Registration followed by the Miss Education of Lauren Hill. Ahhh, the beautiful Miss Hill, who never forgot her roots and turned conservative…if only Emin and Bush had been so loyal.
I think they managed to figure that one out in a hurry…they never even commented on the album.
Sure, no one had ever heard of Bruce Jenner or Robert Kardashian before Kim made a sex tape.
And characterizing it as a “porn video” is just disingenuous. It was a private sex tape. Just further slut shaming on your part, basically.
And it was just the one tape. “videos” is just wrong.
The audience demographic for KUWTK is undoubtedly not the audience demographic for Kim’s sex tape, either. But it *is *the same audience for reality shows like The Simple Life and the tabloids that Kim was already appearing in.
And what “porn video” has Kylie made? You know, the billionaire of the bunch…
Oh, so you are slut shaming shaming now?
(Ooops, now I’m slut shaming shaming shaming.)
If you believe that the tape was made for private consumption then you have never heard of Paris Hilton and her fame. And the audience for porn is just about anyone who wants to see famous people fuck.
You mean, another private tape that was distributed without consent? How do you think that refutes anything?
That audience may not be as big or varied as you seem to think…
Do you really believe that there’s the slightest chance that that tape existed for any purpose but to get Kim Kardashian a lot of publicity?
And what makes you think I’m shaming her? She wanted to be famous, she found a way to become famous, and her plan was successful.
Yes, I think it was just a private sex tape. Apparently lots of people make them.
:rolleyes: Dive into literalism if you have to, but that’s a piss-poor defense for characterizing her private activities as porn, or for extending one leaked sex tape into " they’re famous for doing porn videos" as though the entire family is just constantly releasing them.
Anyway, slut-shaming needn’t be directed at the person themselves, it’s what you say to the rest of society that matters too.
And no counter to the fact she was already on the up-and-up as a celebrity, either.
So what happened to this?
Yeah, yeah, we get it–you are Woke.
That’s a joke, I say, that’s a joke, son.
You say it like it’s a bad thing. 
Go on, call me a SJW next, that always amuses.