That's just sad now, Kanye West.

I won’t call you a SJW, but I will say that I don’t agree with the nihilistic attitude that any and all actions are equal in worth and value and morality, therefore, you can’t express disaproval or distaste for them in any way–which is what the term “slut shaming” implies. I won’t call KK a slut–but I will call her that slime of sweat and dead skin that accumulates between your toes when you wear shoes with no socks on a hot day.

That’s preposterous.

All it says is that, of the category of things one can legitimately express disapproval or distaste for, some random woman’s level of sexuality should not be one of them. There’s nothing “nihilistic” about that, and it does not imply “all actions are equal in worth and value and morality”.

I have plenty of actions I have no problem expressing distaste and disapproval for. And if this were a different forum, I’d be starting round about now…

Why not? What makes you the arbiter of which moral judgements people are allowed to express and which they aren’t? Are people allowed to voice disapproval at male promiscuity, or is that verboten, too?

Because it’s a shitty thing to do. Can’t really help you if you can’t see why that is.

LOL at the thought that it’s just me.

Are you asking if men can be slutshamed too? I’d say yes, but there’s a different history to it so it doesn’t really carry the same weight, now does it?.

Again, how is calling the tape porn “shaming”? Did I say that there was anything wrong with porn?

And if she was on the rise as a celebrity before that: For what? The vast majority of people had never heard of her before that tape.

If finding the Kardashians repulsive is wrong I don’t wanna be right.

Actually the cite you listed didn’t say tax refund. It said tax return.

In the article he talks about how he made $115m last year but was $35m in debt.

He’s not the most articulate person in the world. It looks like he’s saying he’s $68 million on the plus side this year. What’s the expression for that? Your line 37? I forget.

It’s more than that. He likes to put fish sticks in his mouth.

Oh, I was unaware that you were so far outside of society that you were completely innocent of the common perceptions of porn in it. My bad. :rolleyes:

For having famous, rich father(s), and wearing nice clothes, and hanging out with other Hollywood socialites, like Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan.

You’re aware her reality show was in production before the tape surfaced, right? Believe me, the Kardashians were going to be a thing, tape or no. That’s just the nature of how the TV landscape was changing towards reality shows.

It’s possible to find them repulsive and not slutshame them or mischaracterise their activities. Ask me how i know this…

OK, then. Last year, there was a woman who was making the news a lot due to various allegations concerning President Trump. Most of the news stories referred to her as “porn star Stormy Daniels”. Were they slut-shaming Ms. Daniels?

Yes, because they knew that she was about to become famous enough to support such a show. Which she wasn’t, before the porn tape. That’s evidence that the whole thing was orchestrated, not that it wasn’t.

Are you joking?

Daniels was an actual, professional porn actress.

And note that calling KK a porn star is only part of what makes your posts slutshaming.

But by all means, continue to double down. I’m sure I’m not the only one interested in your views. Certainly throws many an ATMB thread into a new light

She had foreknowledge that a leak by someone else was going to happen a year before it did, is what you’re saying. With absolutely zero evidence.

I think it’s obvious you have less than zero understanding of how reality TV works. There are scores of people famous for nothing but being on reality TV shows. They weren’t famous before, either. Kim had already been appearing on TV, and in the pap rags.She was not some nobody.

What, that time travel had to be involved? Sure, whatever you say…backs away slowly

Stormy Daniels and Kim Kardassian are both women who found it lucrative to deliberately release videos of themselves having sex. Therefore they are both porn actresses. It is no more shameful for one than it is for the other.

And yes, of course she knew that someone else was going to leak the tape, because she arranged with the leaker for it to happen.

And I’m sure that I’m not the only one rolling my eyes at yours.

That is not true. Kim Kardashian did not release her own tape.

I don’t see why you think it helps your case to be spreading a falsehood like that.

Where’s your *evidence *for this?

Believe me, eyerolls from the likes of you definitely help. Roll them harder!

Believe me, I am.

I’m trying to understand the logic behind ‘she’s wildly popular because of her wildly popular sex tape that was wildly popular because she was a nobody.’

As opposed to what other reason she’s wildly popular?

Why are any of the Real Housewives of New York, Hollywood, Atlanta and East Bumfuck popular? Or why were the cast of Jersey Shore popular? Or those fake bearded yokels who make duck calls?

Because people saw them on the gogglebox.

And none of them got the show named after them. With those shows, they came up with some premise, then looked around and made casting calls to find people to put on the show. Nobody went to a producer and said “Hey, let’s make a show about Dolores!”. You only do that if the person is already famous before the show. Or you expect them to become so. Because of, say, a widely-popularized sex tape. The whole thing makes no sense whatsoever if it wasn’t all orchestrated.