I was visiting a site
And they have a USA Electoral College map you can play aroudn with.
President Obama seems so far ahead, I can’t work of any way for Mitt Romney to win it.
As a fun exercise I thought it would be interesting to do a scenereo where you could get Mitt Romney enough states to get to 270.
I don’t care who you’re actually in favor of, I just thought it’d be cool to kind of present a REALISTIC scenerio where he could win
Thanks
Sure. Start with their map. Then have Romney take FL, NC, PA and OH. VA and IA can be topping on the cake. Quite realistic.
While there are scenarios that are reasonable for Romney, the truth is he has a far narrowed window than Obama.
I don’t think there’s much of a chance Romney gets PA- PA hasn’t gone R since '88.
I feel pretty confident that Obama will get 297 or more electoral votes: PA, OH, VA, CO, NH, WI (Dukakis won WI!!), and NV are pretty solid for him, and I think he might get IA too.
Anyone know the source of this map or what or who is “270towin.com”? I ask because when I click the link, first thing I see, at the top of the page, is a Newsmax ad saying, “Will this video cost Obama the election?” And I know what Newsmax is. :dubious:
I am reminded of the tale of the quarterback, the gymnast, and the economist stranded on a desert island. Searching for food, they came across a coconut tree. The quarterback slammed into the tree truck, attempting to shake some coconuts loose, without success. The gymnast tried to climb the smooth branchless trunk, also without success.
The economist pondered the situation, and finally said, “Assuming that there’s a ladder on this island…”.
No idea were 270towin is from, but RealClearPoliticshas a somewhat similar map. It lists FL, NC, OH, VA and IA as tossers, and PA leaning Obama. Clicking the make your own map link and giving those states to Romney yields 271 electoral votes for him.
This is the most plausible route to victory IMO: http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=lBe
Basically 2008 with IN, VA, NC, OH, FL, and NH swapped. I find it almost impossible to conceive of a situation in which Romney wins PA but not VA. And he basically can’t win without three out of four of VA, OH, FL, and PA.
Interesting. IMHO, Pennsylvania will go for Obama, but even with this he needs to win either Florida or Ohio or I don’t think he can pull it out. If he wins 2 of these 3, I believe he will take the election, if not, I don’t see his path to victory.
This. And Obama can’t win without winning two of these states.
I think Obama can pick up PA, IA, and WI fairly easily; he needs OH, which will be a battleground, or FL, which has a comfortable-looking margin of registered Democrats, but doesn’t usually play out that way. I think this election’s going to be a squeaker.
I expect PA stays Democratic. Otherwise I agree with this post.
The WashPost had an article about this recently. Their point was that Romney (or any Republican nominee in 2012) has a low ceiling for electoral votes, but a high floor. Romney can get to 270 or higher, just not much higher. But he has fewer states to flip than Obama. OTOH, Obama could lose or win or win big.
If Governor Scott’s voter-rolls purge is not stopped and Romney wins Florida, there’s gonna be trouble (I’ll be making some little of it myself), and Romney’s Admin will be tainted with illegitimacy like W’s was (yes, both terms, don’t get me started on Ohio in 2004). Never again! :mad:
Yawn. Call us when you find real voter fraud. Oh wait, you can’t because upstanding states have passed voter ID laws that retroactively prevented it from taking place.
Are you talking to me? Because I agree with everything you’re saying, that was my point WRT to the Florida voter-roll purges, including the one in 2000 and the one going on now.
Oops, sorry. I thought the recent exchange in the linked thread plus the idea of “retroactively” preventing fraud–i.e., that’s why there is no evidence of it–would have made the intended sarcasm clear. Sorry for the confusion.
Just saw this post on imgur, and though I don’t think I agree with its text I think I’ll start incorporating it. (percontation point)
That’s very pejorative. In 1972 the shoe was on the other foot, and Humphrey won Ohio’s primary with fake votes from black precincts, according to Hunter Thompson’s book, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail, 1972.
Second Amendment remedies?
:rolleyes: