FactChecking CPAC. Lot of the candidates are playing fast and loose with the truth.
Ah. preemptive retaliation; you have learned well from the Bush years.
What - Republicans insisting on their own facts? Who knew?
Seriously, the Dems need to abandon any pretense of respect for the GOP as a worthy political adversary, and call them out for what they are: a party that is worse in every respect than the Dems, whose arguments only work in the imaginary universe they’ve constructed in their own heads, that is only ‘better’ if you think discrimination against women, gays, and racial and ethnic minorities is a Good Thing, ditto making it harder for the Wrong People to vote, ditto for empowering those who are already rich, and making life more difficult for everyone else. They haven’t been the party of fiscal responsibility in 35 years, nor would any sane person trust them to keep us safe. And they’re provably worse for the fortunes of the vast majority of Americans.
I want a Democratic Party whose goal is to not just win an election or two, but to completely discredit the GOP as it is now, so that it starts sinking in with voters (and maybe even eventually with our Broderist pundit class) just how insane you’d have to be to want the GOP to run as much as a two-car funeral.
Damn, she’s good. We need to clone an army of Elizabeth Warrens.
Not really. That kind of rhetoric, friends and enemies, is inappropriate when talking about fellow Americans.
I would assume you just mean the ‘enemies’ part of that; it’s perfectly reasonable to talk about one’s friends, after all. Anyhow, your issue is with Scott Walker, who drew the parallelism between ISIS and the teachers and firefighters in the first place.
And with every conservative pol who uses rhetoric far more inflammatory than that in describing their domestic political opponents, which they do rather routinely, sad to say.
Warren implies that he considers firemen and teachers “the enemy”, which is utterly false, and that his friends are people that we shouldn’t consider friends. It’s divisive and I doubt it sells except among the 10% of the population that is far left.
I’m sorry…who was it, exactly, that compared those firemen and teachers and other state workers to a terrorist organization known for decapitating and exploding people? Not Liz Warren.
That’s stupid too, but we need to distinguish between the union and those they represent. With the benefit of hindsight we can see that a whole bunch of those teachers and firemen didn’t want any part of the union once they had a choice.
Obviously, Warren considers them to be enemies.
Are you just trying to misunderstand this? Walker said that standing up to unions was comparable to standing up to ISIS. Warren didn’t compare any big groups of Americans to bloodthirsty terrorist enemies. So no, Warren “obviously” does not consider them to be enemies.
So she won’t force them to undergo reeducation? I’m relieved.
But yeah, Walker comparing unions to ISIS, definitely belongs in the Stupid Republican Idea thread.
Yeah–when I was a kid, an existential threat to the nation meant hundreds of ICBMs armed with nuclear warheads aimed at all the country’s major cities. All this shrill talk about the “threat” of ISIS going on at CPAC is laughably transparent (and craven) pandering.
Ah, for the good ol’ days…!
Lust for venegeance had pushed American sentiment into irrationality. The few who opposed Bush’s misbegotten War against Gog and Magog are to be applauded; these include Obama and Biden. Do any promenent Republicans belong on the select list to be applauded?
I am annoyed by those who, finally understanding in hindsight that Bush’s Iraq War derived from lies, greed, incompetence and flawed ideology, try to shift the blame from Bush and his fellow liars onto those who merely believed the liars. I sympathise with Hillary and other gullible Democrats who never thought a President could resort to such heinous and cynical lies.
George Bush’s insane War cost trillions of dollars and millions(*) of lives, just to make the world a worse place. The idea that his younger brother (even if innocent of George’s crimes) could become President makes me want to puke.
(* - Perhaps the direct death toll attributable to the Iraq misadventure was as low as 1.9 million, but at SDMB I’ve been instructed that anything more than 1 allows use of the plural: “1.1 millions”.)
And by employing a crew of Iraq war planners, headed by Paul freakin’ Wolfowitz, as foreign policy advisors, Jebbie has given up any right to claim any distance from the disaster that was the Iraq war. He may be innocent of those crimes as crimes, but there’s no reason to believe he’d go down a different road in the future.
And thanks for nothing to the Republican majority on the Supreme Court:
Via Atrios.
This is your nomination process, Republicans. Cherish it.
Two reasons why that article is stupid:
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You can’t have a southern strategy when you already have won the south.
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Using right to work laws as an example of white grievance is just dumb. Is there any evidence whatsoever that right to work laws are supported more by whites than minorities? Because at least in the private sector, my perception of unions is that they are white dominated.
The “southern strategy” in modern politics has nothing to do with winning the actual south. It’s simply a means of using racial resentment to attract white voters. Surely you know that.
I know what liberals think it is. But when they cite right to work as an example of such an issue they look like they are crying wolf.
You don’t joke about waging war if you’re the commander in chief or want to be. It’s just not done. He thought he was being oh so clever and oh so funny when he delivered the “bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran” line, but it isn’t something you say when you want to be taken seriously. Really, you casually joke about waging war on one of the largest and most powerful nations in the Middle East and you think you should be president?
McCain was unfit to be president in 2008 and he’s getting to be unfit to be senator now. He’s just an angry old fart with an overgrown sense of entitlement who still can’t accept that he was by far the lesser choice in 2008.