The 2016 Republican candidates

All Republicans they polled for(Bush, Rubio, Walker) lead Clinton in Iowa, Virginia, and Colorado:

So there’s three states the GOP can definitely win that they didn’t win in 2012. If Republicans also win Florida and Ohio, they win in 2012, 281-257.

How does that follow?

Because they currently lead. Besides, Colorado’s been pretty rough territory for Democrats since their gun control push.

But none of them have 50%! They’re in freefall!

You’re comparing a candidate who has had 23 years of mud thrown on her to guys who have been below the radar for all that time. Clinton is not going to lose any state that Obama won. Mark it down and salute my wisdom in November 2016.

Yeah, gun control is unpopular in the rural areas. Where they didn’t have a mass shooting in theater since the last election. And where nobody lives.

“currently lead” now equals “definitely win?” I’ speechless. Maybe we can skip the next 14 months of the campaign at least.

Um, she’s under 40% in two of those states. Do you actually believe anyone who isn’t currently supporting her is going to later on?

Barring a Republican candidate who is just that bad, it’s not going to happen. So here’s my prediction: I will not predict a GOP victory yet. But I will predict that Colorado goes red in 2016. The Democrats have just burned too many bridges there. And Florida or Ohio will go red if the nominee is from one of those states, which isn’t really a bold prediction.

Currently lead= can definitely win, not definitely win. Although you’d be crazy to bet on a candidate polling under 40% who everyone already knows.

Can I quote you the next time a poll shows her leading the same Republicans?

What “gun control push”?

Certainly. Clinton will have the momentum after the other Dems drop out, and she’ll have a lot more swing-voter appeal than you seem to appreciate. She’ll also fire up the RW base to oppose her, but, again, you appear to overestimate their comparative numbers, which, twice, were not enough to beat Obama.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-10-22/colorados-hickenlooper-faces-voter-guncontrol-backlash

I note that Gov. Hickenlooper was, in fact, reelected with a plurality but not a majority of the vote.

The one that led to recalls of Democratic legislators who voted for a gun control bill.

As I have told you before:

  1. The two Republicans who won the recall elections were defeated in the next election by Democrats.

  2. The gun control law is still law.

I’ll add another this time.

  1. The governor that signed it was reelected.

Your continued attempts to paint Colorado red due to the gun control recalls is simply disingenuous.

And now pot is legal there, too.

Just for fun I went to the the main politics page of of both CNN and Fox News and did a “find on page” for each of the sixteen Republican candidates (plus Clinton as a comparison).

Here’s what happened:


Name		CNN	FOX	Total
Trump		23	10	33
Graham		4	2	6
Kasich		1	3	4
Perry		3	0	3
Bush		2	0	2
Rubio		2	0	2
Walker		1	1	2
Christie	1	0	1
Fiorina		0	1	1
Huckabee	0	1	1
Paul		1	0	1
Santorum	0	1	1
Carson		0	0	0
Cruz		0	0	0
Jindal		0	0	0
Pataki		0	0	0
			
Clinton		5	7	12

Kasich did better than I thought he would, but he may want to consider picking a fight with Donald Trump if he wants to get the word out that he’s running.

Sorted by votes (89 voters):

Bush 84
Cruz 80
Paul 76
Rubio 73
Walker 70
Huckabee 61
Christie 59
Trump 59
Perry 47

(tie for 10th)
Santorum 36
Carson 36

Graham 27
Jindal 25
Kasich 18
Fiorina 17
Pataki 8

We’re more in alignment with the polls now, though not in the same order.

It’ll be interesting to see if Trump nosedives after the McCain and Graham stuff. Even if he does, we’re getting close enough to the debate that polls with him leading may still be considered.

The participants in the first debate will be based on “the most recent five” polls. There’s still two weeks till the first debate.

Boy, did I post this in the wrong thread, or what?

So, Coloradans won’t have all that much interest in shooting guns anyway . . .