I have a lot of trouble with this particular storyline, as in, I think it is 100% BS. The husband is beyond a dick. He’s unbelievably selfish. To just pretend that she didn’t come back—to not pick her up when she was released and gently explain to her what’s happened—to not do anything but wait for her to come to his house and then gutlessly tell her that he’s married? What a complete jerk. 100% asshole. She had done nothing wrong, and he treats her as if she’s a nonentity that he can just wish into a cornfield.
And the restraining order? Beyond horrible and a little unbelivable. What kind of monster does that? What did she do that was so bad that she warranted a restraining order? Nothing. Why didn’t she get the ACLU (who, after all, helped the 4400 get released from quarantine) to back her up or something? I have a lot of problems with this storyline, indeed.
Overall, however, I like this show and I’ll keep following it. I am amused that one of the main guys in Taken is in this as well: Joel Gretsch (if someone else mentioned this before, I apologize, I must have missed it). He was so horrible and so evil in Taken and now he’s playing the pretty good, stand-up guy. I’m having to adjust. He made quite an indelible impression on my brain in Taken—boy, was he evil in that.
I finally saw the premiere, and then watched Sunday night’s episode: I think I like this show. Yeah, it has its predictable moments, some of the characters/plotlines are annoying, etc., but on the whole I find it entertaining. I was very happy to see Carl’s character get introduced, because at first I thought the whole series was going to revolve solely around the people we met in the premiere. (It was also nice to see the actor who played Carl (David Eigenberg) again, after his stint as Steve on Sex and the City.)
Am I the only one who has been worried that Lily will turn out to be Richard’s illegitimate granddaughter or something? :eek: I’m hoping that the writers wouldn’t have let them become ‘intimate’ if that’s the case…even the kissing would have been icky enough…but that was the first thing I thought when we met those two.
I thought the premise of 7/25’s show was interesting, one I hadn’t thought of before. Not all of the 4400 are fine, upstanding citizens. Very interesting how they finally caught Knox, but I wished they’d revealed how he convinced the men to do his killing for him.
I’m glad Richard got a job, but I don’t trust Jordan Collier as far as I can throw him.
I don’t agree with Whatshisname telling Barbara Yates to back off the 4400, even threatening her producer. That’s censorship, since he’s part of Homeland Security. They should fight fire with fire, sending out press releases, appearing on rival shows, appealing to the public to respect the 4400’s privacy as they reintegrate into their families and society.
And I liked the reference to “ripples”…shades of *Joan of Arcadia{/i]?
He and Barbara evidently have some advesarial history and he let his animosity get in the way. It’ll be interesting to see if he reconsiders and takes a different tack in the coming episodes.
Am I crazy, or were the high school interior shots done on Buffy’s old set? I thought that Buffy’s HS set was destroyed to make room for the college years, but the 4400’s high school looked very familiar.
I’m a little confused by a few points in the 7/25 episode.
So, Knox did do the killings back in The Day, before he was abducted? How did he get away with it then? And why did he talk others into doing his dirty work instead of doing it himself?
The Homeland Security boss guy, when he was threatening the journalist babe’s producer, said something like “You know where the bodies are buried.” WTF was that supposed to mean?
Near the end of the show was a brief broadcast of a news clip: I didn’t hear it because I was on the phone (damned wrong number!).
Finally, what was supposed to be the beneficial “ripple effect” of Knox’s killings?
He disappeared before the authorities could put the clues together.
He knew that he’d be the #1 suspect.
Mr. Boss Man figures that Barbara probably has skeletons in her closet and wants the producer to use them in blackmailing her into covering something else.
A website had published the names of the 4400 and Homeland Security was trying to get it shut down. The report centered on Homland Security not comfirming if the site was accurate but their trying to get it shut down implies that it was indeed accurate.
Maybe Knox gets off on the double layer of control. One for killing the girl(s), one for forcing another man(men) to do his will. The first killer shown obviously wasn’t the murdering type; he freaked out, confessed and tried to kill himself almost immediately.
Again, like the little psychic girl, we have no idea what Knox was capable of before he was abducted. Maybe the aliens took only the freaks to start with.
Me too! When he was first introduced I was sure he was just some has-been actor trying to get back in the public view by claming he’d been abducted. But it looks like he’s a business man with a plan. I’m faintly curious what that plan is.
On another note, why aren’t the 4400 selling interviews to historians? I’m sure there’s a lot of scholars out there who would love to talk to Richard, who remembers the Korean war like it was yesterday.
I thought the way Barbara was handled was rather deft. She was given the chance to be more “fair and balanced” in her reporting of the 4400, and when she chose not to, the dirt was dug up and turned over to the authorities. No frame job, no second chance. Although I think this still smacks of censorship, at least she can’t argue that she was blackmailed.
We see the “ripple effect” from Knox’s murder spree. Interesting.
I still don’t trust Collier, but he’s very slick. At least Lily is starting to look at him a bit :dubious:
Next week can’t be the series finale! There have to be more! This is such a cool show!
From what I could tell from the truck bomb, I don’t see how it could have done much damage. What was right behind the gate, houses? Since only about 12 people had moved into Collier Estates, chances are that would have been an empty house it would have hit. Unless I didn’t see it correctly?
I really don’t like this plotline, for reasons I’m not sure I can express. But consider what would be a ripple effect of 4400 randomly selected human beings on their local society? I fear our investigators are finding patterns only because they are looking.
I taped it and just watched it last night.
I don’t quite get the “ripple effect” of the serial killer thing. They know who the serial killer was, so why are the brothers of the one murder victim killing random 4400’s?
And yes, that truck bomb was way too small to do much damage.
Collier is up to something, that’s for sure. I surprised Lily’s baby doesn’t suspect something and freak out when she’s near him.
The ripple effect was that during Knox’s murder spree, the 4400 were looked at as “freaks” and possibly dangerous.
When it came out someone was attacking them, they turned into sympathetic victims. That wouldn’t have happened if Knox hadn’t killed the attacker’s sister. (Not that killing her was a good thing.)
Those guys clearly didn’t know what they were doing. There was a guy who made a truck bomb out of his pickup and tried to use it against an IRS building in Los Angeles. Authorities say Oklahoma City would have paled in comparison had that LA bomb been successful.
Whoever Kyle is, he’s the “one who is coming” that the psychic girl was talking about - at that point in the episode he was still coming because Kyle didn’t know who he wasn’t yet. I don’t think he knew who he was by the end of the episode though.
And I agree that Collier is way creepy. It wouldn’t surprise me if he thinks the 4393 (or however many are left) should band together and enslave the normal people. He smells of wannabe cultleader-ism.
Is it just me, or was this, like, the shortest season ever? Even for a summer show, it seems really short!
Can anyone tell me who plays Tom Baldwin’s wife? It’s been driving me crazy all season! Every time I see her I think it’s Joyce Hyser (from 1985’s Just One of The Guys), but I looked her up on IMDb and The 4400 isn’t listed in her credits – and it’s not just that the show might be too new, because it shows up in Mark Valley’s credits (good to see him outside of Keen Eddie). The role of Mrs. Baldwin isn’t listed on IMDb, nor could I find it on the show’s official website.
Yeah, it has its predictable moments, some of the characters/plotlines are annoying, etc., but on the whole I find it entertaining. I was very happy to see Carl’s character get introduced, because at first I thought the whole series was going to revolve solely around the people we met in the premiere. (It was also nice to see the actor who played Carl (David Eigenberg) again, after his stint as Steve on Sex and the City.)