I didn’t see a title “Cole” like there was {“Allison”} in the second part. That’s what made me wonder. Mzybe I missed it. I was going to go back and look but didn’t bother.
The last two episodes set in Montauk were much better, I felt transported into their lives. Less noise and more one-on-one between the main actors is a big improvement, since the acting is the best thing about the show.
First, the most recent episode was terrible.
Second, when I was referring to “two perspectives” I meant with regard to the same scenes. I don’t remember them doing that since the middle of the prior season.
Yeah this is what keeps me watching. They are interesting people to watch.
Well, last night was definitely “Two Perspectives”. Noah sure likes his pill popping’ momma!
I’m not sure why I keep watching this show either (probably because Mrs. Mix likes it and I find Alison’s character intriguing) but the conversation last week (306) between Helen and Nina (Noah’s sister) at Nina’s house was really well written and acted by both.
Yeah, that was good. I actually went back and listened to it again.
I’m wondering if Gunther the Screw is a figment of Noah’s imagination…in whole or in part. We do know that he is seeing things from the scene in the lake behind his father’s house.
In Noah’s version of the story this week, Gunther enters the basement and a fight ensues. In Helen’s version they hear a thunk down there during the family dinner…we’re prob supposed to think that was the fight.
It turns out that nobody loved Raymond either.
This show was recently renewed for a fourth season. For some reason I thought this was the end.
One thing is certain: Whitney was right. Helen is even crazier than Noah, no matter which perspective was accurate. I’m glad they stuck with Helen’s story, though. On a lot of shows she would have been just a device and conveniently discarded half way through.
I’m not sure I agree that Helen is crazy. Noah wronged her, for sure, but going to jail to protect her has gone a long way toward her forgiving him. (I interpreted his move as wholly to protect Helen, not at all to protect Alison.) But every time Whitney confronts her about why she forgives Noah for cheating on her and killing a man, Helen can only stand silent. To Whitney this appears to be the ultimate martyr act, and is truly inexplicable from Whitney’s point of view. We the audience know better, though.
Not to say Helen has it all together; she’s clearly a mess. Getting busted for DUI while picking up her kids put her in competition with Noah for the “worst judgment” gold medal. And Noah’s sister nailed it: Helen has a healthy dose of narcissism going on. (Who on this show doesn’t, though, right?)
As for which perspective was closer to the truth this episode, I think Noah’s was. The clincher for me was Helen repeatedly saying “I know you” during sex. Noah wouldn’t have any clue why she’d be saying that, while we know it’s in response to Noah’s sister telling her she didn’t know Noah at all. Since it didn’t really make any sense from Noah’s perspective, but it does make sense objectively, that came across as the real(er) version to me.
I think the whole point of the show (or one of the main points, anyway) is that neither perspective is fully accurate. But I do think Gunther was real in the prison. I don’t think he’s actually stalking Noah, though.
I had the opposite impression. Noah is not in his right mind, and it’s hard to tell what’s real and what isn’t. But one thing totally fits his character: his obliviousness to Helen’s feelings and motivations. In her perspective she’s clearly conflicted about her feelings for Noah and what it means to have him in the house. In his perspective she was nothing more than a pill-pushing seductress who had all the confidence in the world until she started crying after sex. We know Helen better than that.
Also, Furkat (is that his name?) is a d-bag, but I don’t think the altercation between him and Noah went down the way Noah thinks it did.
I don’t think anything happened the way Noah thinks it did. He is the most unreliable narrator of the entire show and I never believe anything from his perspective. This episode he was high off his ass popping Vicodin and having hallucinations the whole time
I feel put off by the finale. I’ve been watching this show for years enjoying the feeling that Noah, Alison and even Helen have a legitimate claim as to who the main character is. But this finale shit all over that. Apparently it’s the Noah show, and whatever woman he happens to fancy at the time. This felt off to me, like all of a sudden this is a show where the female characters are throw-away characters who are only relevant in relation to the main character, the real character, the only character, the man.
I would have much preferred if they swapped the order of the last two episodes. Nothing, or at least very little, would have to change in either episode. We go from the Brendan Faser “breaks in” / Rape of Helen episode to the Paris episode, where we as an audience try to piece together when it is and how we got there. Then the finale (which is Noah and Helen) fills in the gaps.
All I would change would be to put something in the previous episode about the kids starting school to pinpoint the season as late August / early September, then hit the Christmas theme a touch harder in the Paris episode so that we’d know immediately that several months have passed.
Yeah that was strange way to end it. Between the time jump and spending all that time with a tertiary character…
I fast forwarded through the entire French subtitle section. What a pointless waste of half the episode.
I will not be returning next season.
Rape of Helen?
There just seemed to be such a huge disconnect between all the episodes this season then the finale. Essentially, everyone is “living happily every after”. But not these folks!! How can they go a few days with some DRAMA in their lives???
Weird finale. No point to Juliet’s character other than she helped Noah get over the guilt from his mother’s death.
I have no idea how they get these four characters in the same orbit again. Helen/Noah and Alison/Cole will always be connected because they share children, but there is no reason for Alison and Noah to ever see each other again.
They should just end it as is. Noah left in a cab with no idea where he should go.