It looks like, and I’m hoping, that this is going to be Spider-Man’s Dark Knight.
A lot of people in this thread didn’t like the trailer, think it’s too soon or whatever. Based on the trailer alone I think this looks ten times better than the last shit Spider-Man trilogy we had to deal with and I’d rather have this than Thor or the Green fucking Lantern.
This is exactly what I hate about all of these types of movies. There’s absolutely no reason why they need to start from “the beginning.” Really, who doesn’t know the story and even if they don’t, who gives a fuck? It’s always the shittiest, most boring part of the movie.
Just because the trailer focused on dark shots doesn’t mean that that’s what the entire film is. It didn’t show him punching a bad guy so clearly he’ll be incapable of that, too, amirite?
And the mechanical web shooters for anyone who wants to see them. I know they were already confirmed upthread.
100% disagreed. Those are always my favorite parts of these kinds of movies.
I’ve heard rumors that the next Superman movie will include his origin over the credits.
Picture of scientists milling around.
Picture of Kal-El bundling stuff into a spaceship.
Baby in the spaceship.
Kablooey!
Crash land on Earth.
Old couple finds baby.
ALL-STAR SUPERMAN glided over it in four quick panels: a “doomed planet” caption with a shot of Krypton, “desperate scientists” with a shot of Jor-El and Lara, “last hope” with a shot of the rocket heading for Earth, “kindly couple” with a shot of Jon and Martha Kent finding the baby – and cue the yearlong epic story.
For those who don’t see the similarities between The Amazing Spiderman and The Twilight series, look at the movie poster vs the first still of Andrew Garfield released.
The animated version thereof translated those panels (with the original Quitely art intact, even though the rest of the movie was done in a slightly different style) into stills and a voice over that were interspersed with Quintum’s sun dive, in the first 20 seconds of the movie.
Ok, so every superhero movie follows one of three basic formulas and pretty much every series plows through them 1, 2, 3 before running out of steam. But why start over and do 1, 2, 3 all over again? If you’re going to basically remake the earlier movies in the series, why retell the origin every ten years? Why not do two or three variations on the romantic subplot?
I understand that formulas work and it’s hard to come up with something truly groundbreaking that works, but the last thing I want to pay money for is another shot of Peter getting bitten by a spider and discovering he has powers. If I really want to see that again, I can see the version on DVD for one eighth the cost of seeing the new movie. Soon, the new movie will be on DVD, and then what will the producers do in ten years if they want to keep the franchise going? How many remakes can they do?
At least with variations on the romantic subplot, they can tell a different story with the same formula. Why not have a Gwen-Mary Jane love triangle? Or why not have another second tier superhero (who won’t require big casting or mess up the Marvel Universe) become a rival to Spidey and make him question his role? Why not do ANYTHING other than make the same damn movie over again?
Here’s a fan-made attempt at doing the same for Batman, which mostly highlights how difficult it is to completely capture both the story, and the emotion, of a story in just four panels and eight words. I guess that’s what makes Grant Morrison Grant Morrison.
Or you can do what the James Bond films did for over 40 years (before the last two, which broke the pattern). Each movie is completely independent, with the hero fighting a new villain and romancing a new girl. No real continuity, no delving into the hero’s personal life, just a good guy, a bad guy, a girl and a mission. The superhero genre is uniquely fit for these kinds of stories.
Same here, I don’t need to see anymore origin stories. I’ve seen them since the mid-80s. Most of these characters have 60-70 years of fresh stories to tell.
Arguably because Marvel is rebooting everything in a shared universe. Avengers is coming. We’ve had Thor and Iron Man, with Captain America coming soon. Fantastic Four has been announced (but not much beyond that). X-Men has gone back to the beginning.
I’d say expect a lot of crossovers from now on. I’ll be amazed if there isn’t mention of SHIELD and/or a cameo from the other movies in ASM.
If it’s true to the early Marvel universe, we’ll start getting some unexpected cameos. Spider-Man comes swinging around the corner of a building and runs into, I dunno, Iron Man, they exchange a few smart-ass quips and Spider-Man continues on his merry way. /Iron Man cameo
I didn’t start reading American comic books until after the first X-Men movie. I was genuinely surprised how much they crossed over. I simply didn’t realise that Superman could appear in a Batman book or the Fantastic Four could appear in a Spider-Man book.
The Shared Universe of the films is being done with the films produced by Marvel Studios.
There are Marvel characters the film rights for which had already been licensed out to other studios before Marvel put their shared universe grand scheme into action. The licensed out film rights for these other characters extend still quite a bit into the future. They will, therefore, not be involved in the Marvel Studios shared universe.
There are other who know the details far better than I do, and I’m sure they’ll chime in. I don’t know how long the current contracts extend. I’m also not entirely positive to which characters this applies.
In order of how certain I feel about the claim, these are the Marvel characters for which Marvel Studios does not currently hold the film rights.
X-Men
Spider-man
Fantastic Four
Any specifics that I’m wrong about will be corrected by a more knowledgeable poster. But Marvel Studios does not have the film rights to all the Marvel Characters.