What makes you think that nonsense? Nothing in your cite supports that. He’s fully capable of delaing with folks like that. Just say “no” and just like dealing with Trump, know that 100% of what omes out of his face is false self-serving garbage.
Unlike GWB who famously saw Putin’s soul. Childish lapdog he was.
Our cyper war team should be allowed to take control of a few billion from Russian oligarchs and see how Putin likes it. They are not invulnerable, stop this pittypat shit.
Take off the gloves.
Joy buzzers.
Biden’ll need to bring out The Buzzer.
You know how Heads of State exchange presents? Biden should bring a whole raft of umbrellas for Putin and all his staff.
Here’s a good summary of where the Republicans stand on the Coup:
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But Republicans are not blocking a bipartisan January 6 commission because they fear Trump, or because they want to “move on” from 2020. They are blocking a January 6 commission because they agree with the underlying ideological claim of the rioters, which is that Democratic electoral victories should not be recognized. Because they regard such victories as inherently illegitimate—the result of fraud, manipulation, or the votes of people who are not truly American—they believe that the law should be changed to ensure that elections more accurately reflect the will of Real Americans, who by definition vote Republican. They believe that there is nothing for them to investigate, because the actual problem is not the riot itself but the unjust usurpation of power that occurred when Democrats won. Absent that provocation, the rioters would have stayed home.
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IOW the rioters were patriots who were justifiably provoked. And the Pubs have to make sure something like this never happens again by making sure no Democrat steals the presidency again.
So yeah, the rioters won. Their purpose is becoming policy, and more than that: law.
It’s been said before but the Capitol Riot was the American equivalent of the Beer Hall Putsch in 1923. It was put down immediately and forcefully; much of German high society appeared to have brushed it off and returned to normal. By 1931, German democracy was on shaky ground. By 1933, it was dead.
The lesson the Nazis learned? Appear to be playing by some sort of rules, even if the behavior is to use the rules to break democracy. That’s exactly what Republicans are doing now.
I don’t believe the coup attempt is over. Republicans aren’t upset that it happened, they’re upset that it failed. Don the Con may be a blithering idiot, but this talk of being reinstated in August alarms me. What if there is a segment of the military leadership that wanted him to succeed and is now planning a sudden strike to take out the government? I think the prospect is chilling enough to take seriously, and maybe this August talk is based on plans that have been made and that Donnie knows about. If there was a plan, he’d be well served to keep his mouth shut but we know he isn’t capable of that. I truly hope I’m just being paranoid, but it seems to me that we haven’t seen the last of the violence about the 2020 election.
I don’t think there’s a plan with a snowball’s chance of working. The real danger is in 2024 when red state legislatures decide to override popular vote totals in their urban areas. Chief Justice Roberts, who is decidedly unfriendly to voting rights, and the Trump lackeys on the court throw up their hands and say “Well, elections are a state matter.”
I agree with you about the violence, but not necessarily the 2020 election part. I think all this noise – voting against the commission, the absurd Arizona fraudit, purple states making it harder to vote – is about legitimizing violence to guarantee GOP victories in '22 and '24.
Plus, they can leverage Trump-related anger without actually having to deal with Trump himself. The next useful idiot will be a lot more manageable and predictable.
^^ This too.
I agree with all you said, but I’m not sure Republicans are upset that it failed. I think they are glad for the opportunity to gradually acclimatize their base to their fascist behavior as being politics as usual. This first coup attempt provides them with the opportunity.
I fear it may work. Look how readily the base became accustomed to horrible, easily-dispelled lies becoming the norm, such as Birtherism.
As @asahi often points out, the Nazi movement didn’t happen overnight. Neither did Putin’s takeover of Russia or many other examples to which we might look, such as Hungary. It’s almost always a decade-ish long slide into fascism. We’re in the midst of that period now, and Republicans are deadly serious about winning. I think it’s important to educate those within our spheres of influence that this is what is in fact happening.
I agree this is their goal. But I think they’ll employ the tactic sooner, in 2022, for the mid-terms.
If Republicans thought they could win the vote legitimately in '24, none of the current legislation would be forthcoming. Donald Trump is not winning converts to his cause; he will lose the popular and electoral votes by at least as much as he did last year – and maybe even lose the popular vote by 10 million this time as demographics continue to swing against him.
Refusing to certify urban votes in GA/NC/PA/MI/WI/AZ/NV is the plan. They only need to do this in three or four of those states.
This. People brush off the idea that we could become a fascist state by claiming that we are not like 1940’s Germany, while ignoring that we are very much like late 20’s early 30’s Germany.
By the time we the fascists have taken over, it’s too late. We should have done something back when people were saying that nothing needed to be done because the fascists hadn’t taken over yet.
If they manage to take back the house and senate in 2022, then they can basically do exactly that.
Jennifer Rubin at the Washington Post made a couple of interesting points in her column this morning:
[I]t is worth remembering that it is illegal under state and federal law to change vote outcomes. This is the basis for the ongoing investigation of the former president’s phone call with Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, in which the election’s loser pleaded with the Republican official to “find” sufficient votes to change the state’s outcome. Georgia prosecutors sent a letter to state officials in February noting potential violations of state law, including “the solicitation of election fraud, the making of false statements to state and local governmental bodies, conspiracy, racketeering, violation of oath of office and any involvement in violence or threats related to the election’s administration.”
In addition, federal law says that any person who “knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process” has committed a felony. It also makes it a crime for a “person acting under color of law” to “willfully fail or refuse to tabulate, count, and report” legal votes. In other words, simply putting control of elections in the hands of partisan Republicans does not mean they can flip election results at will.
She speculates that, faced with the possibility of Federal criminal charges, even Republicans may hesitate at blatantly throwing out election results. Of course, an unscrupulous President would probably just pardon all involved, but what are the odds of that happening? (/s)
I cannot vouch for the accuracy of Ms. Rubin’s analysis, and I’m not qualified to do so myself. But I was also unaware that some of these proposed shenanigans may already be illegal.
This does not reassure me in the slightest. The previous administration amply demonstrated that illegality by itself is no deterrent if there’s no ready enforcement mechanism.
GOP legislatures may merrily throw out votes and dare anyone to do anything about it, knowing that their cronies’ obstructions and the slow wheels of justice will render any legal consequences far too late to alter the outcomes of the elections.
After watching Republicans in Congress shoot cover for Trump’s most egregious violations, I have no confidence that they will suddenly find a conscience and support federal law that denies them control of the federal government. This is the culmination of the Gingrich Revolution, which had its roots 30 years ago.
We’ve another arrest here in Arizona. The perp was identified by the King James tattoo on his abdomen, exposed to the security cameras when he lifted his shirt to wipe his eyes. It matched a 2012 booking photo.
https://www.12news.com/article/news/crime/arizona-man-arrested-for-in-us-capitol-insurrection-idd-thanks-to-stomach-tattoo/75-1eb32203-9121-4aa0-b9e4-d3f0c959958b
It could not have succeeded.
I do not know what went on in trumps disease addled brain, but the coup had no chance at all.
Rather piss-poor, I agree.
There’s also no chance that I am going to be named President for Life this summer.
The difference is is that I don’t have swathes of people, from rioters to legislators, who think I should be.
I’m not worried about what Trump believes, I’m worried about the people who listen to him.