The Apprentice, 9/16

Woo hoo! Apprentice Day!

So – does the Donald really call someone stupid? And tell that person, or another, to shut up? It seems so darned unlikely – he does seem to genuinely value good manners, which doesn’t seem sexist to me, though apparently it strikes some of you that way.

I didn’t know what to think of the whole chair-pulling thing. I consider myself a pretty gentlemenly dude, but I wouldn’t have touched anyone else’s chair in that situation in a million years. Just doesn’t seem appropriate to me. I guess “The Donald” disagrees. :wink:

I concur. Women are supposed to be equal, especially in the workplace. Trump should have been on her ass for not pulling out the men’s chair, to be fair.

I kinda suggested in last week’s thread that it’s gotta be a man he’s callling stupid and telling to shut up esp. due to the chair-pulling-out-thingamabob. I don’t think Trump is sexist, but he does seem to treat women in a more “old-fashioned” way (i.e. commenting on their looks when they went to the Yankees stadium last season etc…).

I don’t think good manners are inherently sexist either. I open doors for both genders. I’ll also pit someone on this message board regardless (or in ignorance of) their gender. It’s all the same to me. But the assumption given that someone should have pulled out Pamela’s chair solely because of her sex *could * be construed as sexist, IMHO of course.

My guess for tonight but I’ll spoiler it just in case:

From what I’ve heard (and this could be totally wrong) is that they have to design and sell a new flavor of ice cream. The men attempt to sell kisses with their ice cream and get in trouble for that. I could see Trump calling someone stupid for trying to sell kisses.

Well, there goes my spoiler cred. D’oh! Luckily it was just a guess. :smiley:

Well, you can rule out a career as a psychic advisor… :wink:

Good lord. I totally did not see that coming.

Me neither. :eek:

I can’t believe they didn’t promote this episode more. It seems like they always say “Something Shocking!” it’s something lame. This blows my mind.

No suitcase for you!

Well that was fun, I didn’t wanna see that mug with its fake laugh anymore anyway.

I lost a lot of episode for Mr. Trump on this one. He made a big mistake. I totally understood what bradford did. I wouldn’t have fired him, I’d have commended him.

Yeah, I really don’t entirely get why he thought what Bradford did was so wrong.

This is the first Apprentice I’ve watched this season and the second ever. I don’t know why I didn’t watch more last year because the one I saw was the one were Omarosa got hit in the head with plaster, demanded to go to the ER and then came back and played basketball. And she didn’t get fired.

This season there’s that insane woman, Stacey J, who was as much to blame for the disorganization as Ivana was, plus she’s crazy-- and the best guy gets fired. I think The Donald’s hiring and firing has more to do with ratings than with who deserves to get fired.

But that’s why he’s The Donald-- The Apprentice is about ratings.

I’m sorry! I didn’t put it in spoiler box. I forgot about the poor west coasters. Don’t kill me!!

It seemed to me that Bradford wanted his record to speak for itself, and to be measured equally against everyone else. That was just a cop out that Trump used to throw a twist. :rolleyes:

You don’t take impulsive, needless, unnecessary risks at the expense of your company’s reputation by assuming your performance is so unassailable that you volunteer to be fired. That attitude encourages more unnecessary risk-taking in the people around you. This is antithetical to corporate business.

Bradford was safe. Unfireable. He didn’t NEED to give away his position of strength – and yet he did.

Sure Trump fired his ass.

Nobody else will make an cowboy stunt like that again.

That was completely absurd. I really enjoyed last season because it was a real twist away from the Survivor style of elimination - the deadweight is voted off instead of the strongest. You just cannabilized one of your best players for a tactic - not a mistake.

This claim is absurd. No one will take such a risk in a REAL business situation. Bradford was being flippant and deserved some punishment, but the punishment didn’t fit the crime.

Bradford had a guaranteed advantage: an exemption from being fired tonight. He was kind of showing off when he gave that up! I think Trump freaked because you don’t give up a guaranteed advantage in business. IT CAN COST YOU MONEY. And in this case, it cost Bradford his job. Fair enough. Very surprising. Good episode. . . but too long; too many scenic establishing shots. We get it, already! This is New York!

Wow!

Well, I didn’t like Bradford anyway, I found his hand clapping, patronizing sexism really annoying as well as his autocratic, controlling demeanor, but I totally didn’t see that coming. What an idiot. I think he was going for some kind of granstanding show of altruism and it totally backfired on him.

I sort of hate the men more than the women so far (the opposite of the first seasons early episodes when the women kept sexing up every task) so I was kind of dissapponted when the women lost. Since Bradford was the only one on the women’s team (until that point) that I really didn’t like, but when the knives came out for Stacie, I lost sympathy and wanted any of them but Stacie to go down. That kind of cliquish, dishonest piling on always pisses me off. They were acting like a bunch of high school cheerleaders.

When Bradford did what he did I was pleasantly amazed. It seemed like Trump immediately forgot about the task and just focused on that one act of stupidity- and it really isn’t about the tasks when you get right down to it. If these people watched the first season, they should know that Trump bases his decisions on personal traits and behavior in the board room as much as anything. The real job interviews are in that room. He saw Bradford making a dangerous, impulsive decision for reasons which were ill thought and transparently self-serving and that was that. Like the Donald said, that one decision immediately dwarfed any trivial snags in selling ice cream.

I was still glad that he took the time to tell Ivana what a crappy leader she was and tell Jennifer to shut up. He wasn’t even that tough on Stacie and he gave the other two no reason to feel smug when they left that room.

The previews mentioned something about “rules being broken.” I wonder what will happen. I’m guessing that a winning team will go to the board room.
On preview, I disagree that Bradford’s decision wasn’t a firable offense, This is a job interview. Trump is looking for someone to make decisions on his behalf- decsions with his (Trump’s) money… He doesn’t want someone who makes impulsive and potentially self-destructive decisions for no good reason.