In earlier episodes, Mrs. Ruiz made several snide comments about how pretty Sonya was, so she was pretty clearly suspicious of him.
Another excellent episode. Kruger knocked it out of the park at the end, and if my husband hadn’t taken that moment to yell at the TV “They should have watched her better!”, I would have been bawling. The actress who played young Gina did a good job too.
But damn. Who did it? There’s gotta be more than one. I don’t think the same person is responsible for all these murders. We’re not even getting any red herrings here!
Anyone else think Marco cheated on his first wife with Alma? I think that’s why Marco told his son, “This time it’s different.”
Stuff like that is making me wonder whether it’s time to give up on this show. It’s moving pretty slowly, and it’s not believable that it never occurred to either of two veteran cops that their very unhappy witness might want to get away from them. I’m not a veteran cop, but as soon as she said she was going to the bathroom, I expected one of those scenes where she goes out the window and finds Hank waiting for her on the sidewalk. I was kind of confused when they made no attempt to watch her, because the previous episodes didn’t make it clear that Hank was an idiot.
And I hate shows with supernatural villains. She’s running as fast as she can in a random direction, and he jumps out and stabs her a couple blocks away?
Yeah, I think I just talked myself out of watching any more. If it turns out to be great and wins a bunch of Emmys, I’ll catch up with it on Netflix or something.
I think a lot of times shows are as good as people are told they are by the ‘literati’ - whoever that happens to be at any given nanosecond. I always thought that there were quantifiable differences between a piece of abstract expressionism that impresses art critics that is actually painted by a chimp and things like literature, theater and cinema. I still believe that for the most part but my faith is shaken.
So the issue is they’re not perfect cops making the right call every second, that they might be very average at their job, that they might have good days and bad days - like most cops and people generally?
I want them to be smarter than I am, which is a pretty low bar.
I had a problem with that too. My fanwank is that he’d been watching from a distance. He ran after her when she jumped out the window, and at some point called her by name, “Hey Gina! Over here!”, and then pulled her into the parking garage.
The problem with that is that before she died, she told Sonya “It was him”, so if she recognized him, she would have run away from him.
If she screamed as soon as she saw him, there wasn’t enough time for him to pull her into the parking garage and stab her, and get away before Sonya showed up.
It would have worked better if we knew how much of a head start Gina had, and if there had been more time between the scream and Sonya finding her.
So yeah, Gina’s murder is a plot hole. Not big enough for me to give up though.
FYI: In case anyone missed the beginning of this series or any other episodes, and you want to check them out, FX is airing all the episodes back-to-back starting tonight at 10pm Eastern, so set your DVRs.
It’s Hank, Sonya or Marco. Nobody else could possibly have known all the things the killer knows.
The killer’s voice is supposedly disguised, but it sounds so much like Hank’s voice, it’s a wonder none of the cops have commented.
I’ll be disappointed if it’s Hank, Sonya, or Marco. Seriously?
I’ll try to rewatch. There’s been a lot of speculation that “Mullet Cop” – Cooper, the one with the moustache – is the culprit. He hasn’t made any impression me – he’s just always there in the background.
If it was Hank you would think Gina would have said so, and recognized him a lot sooner. Marco was nowhere near and we followed Sonya the whole time. She said “i got the eyes right”.
Are you talking about all the murders or just Gina’s?
I’m assuming that there is one murderer. My first guess was Hank, because he was Buffalo Bill after all, and it sounds like him. He’d have a point to prove. But Gina would have identified him. Unless she was really scared and he got to her right away. Yet Hank seems way too much a softie to do these things. Next I came to Marco. Really smart, very complicated and in the right place way too often and is way too lucky. But he too seems inherently so decent. And he was with Sonya the whole time the psychiatrist was killed and Gina didn’t identify him either.
I suppose the brutal male Juarez dealer who ponied up the ransom (I forget his name) has the tools and the motives. But not the information about everyone along the line. He respects Marco’s general lack of corruption (they might be cousins or something) and appears very logical about his brutality.
I just rewatched last week’s episode, and I’m starting to wonder about Hank. When they’re chasing Gina, Hank passes the parking garage and yells “Gina!” – not like he’s calling for her, but like he sees her.
As Gina is dying, she says to Sonya “It was him” and then she breathes out what could be “ank ank” and “I got the eyes right”.
Could “It was him” have meant Hank? If he was close enough to stab her, she could have recognized the eyes.
The other clue – if it’s a clue – was when the killer called Daniel Frye’s phone. Sonya answers, the killer hangs up and immediately calls back on the police department phone. So either the killer knows the phone number for the detectives’ room, or he’s awfully quick with the 411. He hadn’t called the station before.
In the first episode, Hank made an odd comment. Coming into the station after the body halves have been found on the bridge, he says he has to call Carmen (his wife) and tell her she’s “waking up alone”. Seems odd that he’d leave the house without waking her. So it sounds like he hadn’t been home at all.
I don’t want it to be Hank though.
Looks like we can rule out the deputy.
As my kids used to say, “Gnarly!”
Seriously, that was some awesome FX right there. And I’d really like to know what the deputy was about to say.
So can we also rule out Hank? I can see Childress doing the judge and Christina, and the people poisoned in the desert, and Maria, and maybe the psychiatrist. But not Gina.
Sonya needs to search Childress’s house for beads.
I can’t keep the fringe characters straight…
Had we seen Childress or his “work” before?
What do we know about the low voiced guy with the crazy facial hair… apparently his low voice isn’t the same as the bad guy who we’ve only heard on the phone.
Does Marco’s wife work in the US? Her english is near perfect yet she and Marco always speak spanish.
I forgot to mention the interesting turn on the suck-my-dick power move by the powerful male character.
I’ve never seen this one before…loved the shoes trying to get out the window.
Are they playing up the female cops eccentricity in the US version?
No.
Steven Linder. He “rescues” Mexican prostitutes and takes them to a ranch. He works at some kind of halfway house/shelter on the US side. On the Mexican side, there’s a woman (Sara’s mother, who we first saw last night) who tells him who needs rescuing. He’s also searching for his sister, who disappeared some years ago.
Yes. It looks like she works at a school or college.
Broken Briton, Yes. I think it’s refreshing, a character who says what she thinks, without a social filter.