Hell yes. Can you handle subtitles though? 
No problem with subtitles, and I have Netflix and Amazon Prime, so please recommend.
Charlotte shooting Patrick Swayze’s brother wasn’t surprising. They couldn’t trust him and they have nothing to pay him off with. Maybe ATF will think Graciela’s people killed him – we know they planned to.
This episode – it was hard to pay attention to Daniel and Charlotte with Gus in peril. I’m like who cares – get back to Gus!
Would ATF know about the tunnel? Would they know the route, and would they know that it was underground? What does a transmitter tell them?
Got a good one for you; strong female lead, clever work/family life balance, properly paced, greeeeat interiors … 
I’m not sure what I’m watching here.
It feels like there are a lot of really good moments, some excellent performances, and a really interesting sense of place. I want to watch these people in that setting, but I want them to be working a different case because the show just isn’t coming together for me as a whole. Now that the central plot is a revenge fantasy, it’s working even less for me than it did when it seemed as though it was a political statement.
Ya gonna make me guess?
amarinth, I’m okay with the revenge angle, but not with the extra craziness. Tate would have to be crazy and smart and cold-blooded, with exceptional patience and self-control. What crazy person in real life has ever managed all that?
It’d be easier to accept if he hadn’t poisoned the people in the desert.
From an article linked to in Sepinwall’s column, here’s everything Tate has done:
“Inspired by his grief, Tate has gone on to steal the writings of a survivalist to provide a pseudo-intellectual cover for himself, kill a man and assume his identity to fake his own disappearance, kill a judge and a missing Mexican woman, bisect them, leave their bodies at the Bridge of the Americas (which he appears to have knocked out with some as-yet-unexplained jiggery-pokery), poison a bunch of immigrants, kidnap one and tie her up in the desert hoping to watch her bake to death, decapitate his former partner, cut the throat of a police psychiatrist and be in the right place at the right time to stab the man’s daughter and get away with it, romance Marco’s pregnant wife Alma, kill the son of a Mexican industrialist who was driving the car that killed his wife (and to do so without getting any of the dead man’s blood on his suit after messily cutting his throat in a public bathroom), trick Alma into taking a live grenade from him, and intuit where Sonya and Gus, Marco’s partner and son, would be driving at a given moment so he could hit their car and kidnap Gus.”
She forgot to mention Tate getting Zina’s phone number and using it to convince Gus to get closer to Marco, living in El Paso under another identity for six years without being recognized, getting away from the scene where he killed Gedman with all those cops around, getting the first body from the house in Mexico, etc. etc.
We still don’t know why he killed the psychiatrist.
Kinda makes me wonder why I like the show so much. It’s ridiculous.
amarinth nailed it IMO, but it is oddly frustrating. This is one of those weird shows where a number of things click, while simultaneously others are falling to the floor with a dull thud.
Right now it it is still holding my attention and I feel it is just a few feet away from being good. But I also rather fear it will always be a few feet away. It’s like that old joke about Brazil - “it’s the country of the future and always will be.” The side-plots are a mix of just barely interesting ( alcoholic burnout Matthew Lillard and his lesbian cub reporter sidekick ), to bafflingly dense ( creepy rescuer dude ), to just pure boring crap ( Annabeth Gish’s corrupting tunnel o’ doom ). Unless they do something about that, I can’t really see it improving much.
So, are the tunnel and the woman saving weirdo eventually going to connect to the main story or are they mainly there for filler?
obfusciatrist, aren’t there two main stories? The Tate revenge plot and the border culture.
Charlotte and Linder aren’t connected to Tate, but they’re important to the border story.
Okay. What did you think?
Two episodes left. Please, TV gods, don’t let Tate escape from custody or get off on a technicality. Even though his story was what got everything moving, it was for the most part pretty silly. I don’t want to see him again, unless he’s hanging in his cell.
I hated this episode. Flat out hated it.
We live in a world with cell phones and police radios, why did no one call from where they found Gus to the standoff at the bridge? How did Sonya make it through traffic to be part of a Tense Showdown On The Bridge. And there was way too much slow motion punctuated by mourn, yet thoughtful music.
It was all just way too overwrought.
This is one of those shows I fast forward through. I don’t waste time with the pseudo-drama any more since it’s so predictable and so over the top it almost reaches escape velocity. I try to hit the spots where it looks like there might be something that passes for plot development and if I miss something, eh.
I blew right through the whole bridge stand off and missed Frye going off the side for example. Oh well. Don’t think I really missed much of the story but that’s about 15 minutes of my life I didn’t piss away at least.
At least they killed Gus :).
At the point in TV history really either resolution in that little bit could have been cast as cliche ( dark and edgy cliche vs. triumphant-genius-in-the-nick-of-time cliche ). But if you have to pick one, dead-Gus beats rescued-Gus IMO.
Meanwhile Demian Bichir’s overwrought struggles with his conscience on the bridge was his worst acting of the season. Really poor. I’ve liked him quite a bit so far, but he does wry and world-weary way better than he does overemotional and ready to snap.
Agreed on all counts. There was just a bit too much channeling of Brad Pitt in *Seven (or Se7en) *going on in that scene. Overall it was alright, but if Gus had survived, that would have been too much for me.
I liked it, and I’m sad about Gus. Sonja being the savant and the wild card could have plausibly saved Gus and thwarted Tate. I can buy that the feds were too damn lazy to be tracking the weapons when they actually crossed the border. That part is actually hilariously lifelike.
What I don’t buy is killing the nine people in the desert. Tate is about revenge. These people were random and did nothing to him or his family.
I don’t understand why Tate killed the judge. But I can put that off to something we don’t know yet.
I do have a big problem with Tate always knowing where to be and apparently never sleeping. I suppose one could put that down to six years of planning and stalking his prey, but there really isn’t any record of him being evil before killing the judge, nor any reason for him to be that patient.
Ray and Tim are impossibly stupid, and Tim is lucky Char didn’t plug him too. I loved Swayzee’s acting. The guy who plays Ray is okay, but generally outclassed by everyone else in the cast by at least two leagues.
I like that the series focuses on the evil that the drug trade does to Juarez, which is one of the most dangerous places in the world.
I am in love with Sonja. I’ve always had a thing for Diane Kruger since I saw her as eye candy in Troy, but she tops a first rate cast with a believable portrayal of a character who should not be plausible. Her ability to pull off this character is really something else, and I think holds the show together. I really like how only Hank and Marco realize how good Sonja is at her job. The other big haired and moustachioed detective seems to have plenty of information in front of him to show prove that Sonja is a virtuoso at her job, but has been pretty blind because of his contempt for her social awkwardness, perhaps his character grew when he respected her enough to give her his weapon.
Sonja will never have the social skills to supervise others, but her focus and gifts seem to make her a plausible Sherlock Holmes level intuit-er.
Tate’s cover was supposed to be about the border culture and killing the immigrants were part of that. But yeah, I don’t see how killing them would make sense even to someone as crazy as Tate.
Someone at IMDB said the judge was responsible for letting Santi get off, for the accident that killed Tate’s wife. I don’t remember anything like that though. Was Santi even arrested? I guess we have to assume the judge was somehow dirty.
Anyone see the Scandinavian original? Did it make more sense?
Yeah, and she pulls off a pretty good Boy George, too!
That was the crazy guy.
It’s been renewed for a second season.
Can we trust the writers to drop Marco trying to kill Tate? I hope they’ve seen what critics and fans have said about Tate. The majority opinion seems to be that the serial killer story was an initial draw but that it turned into a weakness, because of the silly contrivances.
What did you all think of the finale? I thought it set season two up nicely, except for Marco and Tate, that is.
I think the interest (and likely viewership) fell of a cliff when the Tate storyline ended, leaving us 3 (?) episodes of denouement. Which felt incredibly strange.