Try a different device or incognito? I’m not having trouble but it sounds like a cookie issue.
How can one be arrested on “suspicion of trespassing”? You either are or you aren’t.
Must be some law-talkin’ distinction.
Some kind of invalid certificate? I get this message:
see if this works
We were referring to the article linked in the OP as having questionable accessibility.
Ah, well, if you strip the url to the root, it looks like the domain (site) has gone TU.
FWIW, I accessed the linked article under discussion twice last night and once again a few minutes ago without incident.
It’s that pesky “innocent until proven guilty” thing; its a part of due process.
Otherwise, they’d have just lined him up against a wall & shot him. /s
( Then you’d have to just ask questions of his silly hat )
Yes, but then would the person be convicted of “suspicion of trespassing”, or actual trespassing?
technically, a news outlet has to use soft words like “suspect”, “alleged”, “accused” and so forth until a person has been duly convicted of a thing
… Yes.
A little less technically, mere suspicion of certain crimes is damn near criminalized in itself, in effect. I’m thinking of drunk driving cases, in which a driver can get his license impounded on the spot, hauled off to the drunk tank for the night, and have to pay hundreds of dollars just to have some kind of hearing to get his license back. – All entirely independently of having a trial.
As the Queen of Hearts said at the trial of the Knave of Hearts: “Sentence first, verdict afterward!”.
The White Queen also agreed: “…there’s the King’s Messenger. He’s in prison now, being punished: and the trial doesn’t even begin till next Wednesday: and of course the crime comes last of all.”
Off with their heads! The trial can wait.
Which reminds me of the animated Transformers movie, in which a tribunal named the Quintessons sentenced people to death when they were found innocent.
In the sense that you can be incarcerated based on suspicion, yes, but if you can show that your detainment was grossly unjust (e.g., the police had no probable cause to arrest you to begin with), you might be able to get fair compensation for your losses. For our flavor of “justice”, this sort of thing is necessary.
Sounds like the child (name of Cyrus, according to the article) was being starved by the parents, since he was apparently able to gain weight in hospital:
So the timeline seems to be, starting March 1:
- Child admitted to hospital for malnourishment
- Child able to gain weight under hospital care
- (Presumably, child removed from hospital by parents)
- Follow-up appointment finds child losing weight again
- (Presumably, this is where procedures for dealing with suspected parental abuse and/or negligence come into play)
- Parents are AWOL on subsequent follow-up visits, so cops go looking for them
- Friday March 11, evening, police locate child and bring to hospital for care
- Saturday March 12, Ammon Bundy and the BundyBund shove their sorry asses into the situation, get arrested, and whine about “medical tyranny” interfering with “parental rights”.
IOW, the BundyBund are standing up for the “right” to starve your child if you want to, I guess.
But Heaven forfend that a parent should have the parental right to seek suitable medical care for their LGBTQ/Trans child!
Opinion: I’d call myself a good parent for helping a kid in crisis. Missouri might call me a criminal.
Imagine being legally forbidden to save your child’s life.
That could be the upshot of recent measures in Missouri and Idaho that aim to restrict abortion access and criminalize medical care for transgender kids. State attempts to control the bodies of certain segments of their population are now common, but these measures would add a sinister twist: extending that control beyond state borders.
And remember that these are conservatives, devoted to individual liberty.
More like “These are conservatives, devoted to making life as hard as possible for everybody who isn’t a strait-ish, white, “Christian” male.”
This isn’t about a Bundy, but it Bundy adjacent: Matt Shea, former Spokane Valley WA State Rep and premier alt-right jerkoff who was part of the Bundy dildofest in OR, is in the news again. Shea is a guy who wrote a “christian” manifesto justifying creating a “holy army” and killing people (mainly the brown Muslim ones). Now he is Poland collecting orphans as his “prospective daughters”. I don’t know what this is all about, but it is creepy as fuck!
I’m sure he’ll narrow it down to the 10 or so prettiest ones.