You literally cannot make this shit up.
And, um, if they are asking for pardons, then they effectively admit to have broken laws (most likely involving prison time), no?
Weren’t there also reports that some of those that skedaddled out in the middle of the night left behind firearms? I’m sure they were responsible firearm owners and merely “forgot” the weapons in their haste instead of said persons or said weapons not being properly legal?
This is the Internet. There is no end to any argument.
Poor Ammon Bundy
Went funny Monday
Grew worse on Tuesday
Armed up on Wednesday
Drove up on Thursday
Took over Friday
Shootout on Saturday
Clinkward on Sunday
And that was the end
Of Poor Ammon Bundy
This is America. There is no end to any argument. Some people will still argue for the merits of slavery.
This dude in Pennsylvania did not fire the shot that killed his daughter but is facing criminal homicide charges.
Who would you rather have as a leader?
The remaining leader of the Oregon standoff broadcasting over teh interwebs: http://videos.oregonlive.com/…/theyre_coming_to_kill_us_arm…
Or this little guy: I am Your Leader - YouTube
Timothy McVeigh and Nidal Hasan weren’t “charged with domestic terrorism” either.
Sure; and O.J. Simpson isn’t a murderer, right? And no one involved in banking in the early part of the 21st century ever did anything wrong, aye?
:dubious:
Your argument is stupid.
No, you fail at basic comprehension. OJ was CHARGED with murder. These idiots have not been charged with domestic terrorism. They also didn’t plan to carry out any attacks on civilians in an attempt to influence the government.
They planned to shoot back when the police shot at them, that is in no way shape or form terrorism, because police / FBI are not civilians.
One presumes that they won’t go home.
Not that “home” is where the gummint should be planning for their next stop…
They haven’t been charged with breaking and entering; will you also claim they are not thieves?
They haven’t been charged with trespassing; will you claim they are not trespassers?
You’re an idiot, your arguments are stupid, your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Coremelt, just sit tight until these perps get the book thrown at them.
As a group, they were clearly trying to intimidate as well as get others to join their armed insurrection.
Terrorism may not be the charge. Just like Al Capone got nailed with income tax evasion. But this group clearly threatened armed violence…and maybe that ain’t terrorism but it’s a pretty fine line.
I do hope that this brings Ammons father Cliven back into the lime light. “By the way, that million that you owe for grazing rights?”
I, for one, am shaking in my boots.
me three! Give this shitstorm a few days/weeks to settle down. Then go after Cliven for all the back grazing fees he owes.
It’s the American way – bankrupt these douchebags if you don’t want to throw them in jail.
Yes and there is an appropriate charge for that. Seditious Conspiracy:
Terrorism has a specific meaning, it should not be used overly broadly. Attempting to overthrow the government by force is NOT terrorism if you don’t target civilians.
I call BS on that. Attempting to overthrow the government by force *is *terrorism. Jesus H Christ, one can’t get more terroristy than trying to overthrow a government by force. It’s only not terrorism if you succeed. Bundyits didn’t succeed.
But they did at a minimum willfully intimidate some of the citizens of Burns. Let the courts decide if this is “terrorism” with a big “T” or little “t”.
No no its not, even the US law on this is clear. Attempting to overthrow a government by force is sedition, or insurrection. You can make up your own definition all you want but both the US and UN legal definitions of terrorism make clear that targeting civilians is an essential part of the charge.
Or are you really arguing that the US founders were all terrorists? They overthrew the legitimate government of the British colonies by force. Or is your position “they’re not terrorists if they win?”
That’s irrelevant.
Besides that, you’ve firmly established you’re an idiot.
Nope, anyone that wants to broaden terrorists to include anyone who does something slightly dangerous against the government is an idiot and a dangerous one.
Its really fucking simple I’ll spell it out so you morons can understand, using examples from recent history in Thailand.
a) Planting a bomb outside government building. Not terrorism, instead its insurrection, governments are legitimate targets for civil war.
b) Planting a bomb at Erawan shrine outside a shopping mall. Terrorism, it indiscriminately targetted civilians.
Is that so fucking hard for you imbecile dipshits to understand?