The Congresswoman with the crazy eyes, part II, crazy in the head

She was leading awhile ago. She just could not stand the onslaught of Cain, who still can not figure out that insulting women is not a good way to run for president. He compared her to Tutti-Frutti icecream last night. he called Pelosi Princess and joked about the accusations against Clarence Thomas. He is building a backlog of disrespect for women.
But since Repubs don’t want Romney, will she get another look. God did tell her to run, so she must be formidable.

As seen on a Yahoo comments page;

“Michelle Bachmann is sort of a female version of Anne Coulter…”

No, don’t go there. Women are always attacked for their appearance and their sexuality. That’s the kind of thing ANN COULTER does.

Don’t ever make me stick up for Ann Coulter again.

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I’m a vile, nasty, lowdown partisan who hates Ann Coulter with a passion, but the “COULTER’S A TRANNY!!!1!” jokes are horrible and beyond the pale. Not really because it’s insulting Coulter, but because it’s obliquely insulting to transsexual/transgender people, that it’s so HORRIBLE to be tg/ts that we’ll paint someone we hate (for good reason, mind) as being such.

As a gay man with all the love in the world for transgender and transex people, I have been guilty a time or two of joking that Ann is a man. But that’s not a slight against transgendered people, that’s a slight against men :smiley:

Still, I agree that refraining from gender based insults is a good thing.

I was actually unaware of Ann Coulter tranny jokes. I intentionally ignore her existence.

So my apologies for that. Ignorance fought.

Agreement: insulting people – even evil people – on their appearance is bad form.

I had that gripe against Al Franken for “Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot.” The word “Fat” didn’t belong there.

Godwin’s Law-inspired jokes, on the other hand, are okay… Coulter is “Anne of the Green Goebbels…”

I’m just hoping that she gets absolutely slaughtered in the first couple of primaries in the next two months and the curtain comes down on her sick little show.

I wouldn’t weep if she took the nomination…

Party pooper!

I want to see her in a debate where she says in total seriousness that Obama is one of the lizard people, and he and Queen Elizabeth are plotting to take over the world for their reptilian masters.

Eh. I see “Fat” being used there in the same way as with very common phrases like “big fat liar” or “big fat wedding”, modifying the act or concept (idiocy) rather than the subject (the idiot, er, Rush). The fact that Rush is rather portly probably played into some juvenile snickering over the title, but I don’t think “Rush is Fat!” was the main point it was trying to make.

Besides, even if he was referencing the fact that Rush was fat, using the word fat to describe him is not inherently insulting. Fat is somewhat subjective sure, but it’s not like calling him “ugly” or “disgusting.” Speaking of which, if the book was “big ugly liar” or “big disgusting liar,” would that be as bad as “big fat liar”?

That being said, people generally don’t like being called fat so it’s probably best not to refer to them that way, even if you mean it in an objective way.

My point was that when this stuff is directed at women, it reinforces the idea that women are supposed to be slim and attractive and heterosexual and, er, *desirable * by or available to the heterosexual men saying this stuff. Saying that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian, or that Monica Lewinsky is fat, or that somehow Ann Coulter is not as feminine as she should be – I mean, what’s it to you, pal? :eek: :dubious: It reinforces the idea that if you are a woman, you have nothing to contribute unless you are a hot babe; otherwise you can safely be ignored.

I should add that Ann Coulter herself has contributed to this perception, with her insistence on appearing a certain way at all times, wearing her little black dress everywhere, including on morning television. Yeah, she’s just stopping by the studio before she goes to a cocktail party at 8 o’clock in the morning.

Or on her way home from last night.

FWIW, I’d take the same exception to “ugly,” because it promotes the fallacy that good and evil can be discerned visually. On the other hand, I’d accept (and agree with) “disgusting” because that is, by and large, a characteristic that is under control of the person in question.

If someone said, “Rush Limbaugh is bald, therefore I have no use for him,” I’d say that’s an unfair and borderline bigoted ad hominem attack.

But if they said, “Rush Limbaugh chews with his mouth open, therefore I have no use for him,” I’d consider that rhetorically acceptable, if not necessarily logically valid.

If I could count on GMA saying

I might consider watching it…

It’s nice to hear that someone else gets frustrated by this.

Ann Coulter, however, plays games by dressing sexy when the talk is supposed to be serious. But I figure that’s how she gets so many men to agree with her. They are just looking at where her little skirt meets her thighs and saying “Sure Ann, yeah, your right. Cross your legs again.”

I’m guilty of the frustrating stuff as much as everybody else. Perhaps everyone should dress in burqas (men included) so we stop doing this to each other.

Well, message boards, where we are just a matrix of smartass electrons. I prersonally find it relaxing to conduct a conversation without the interference of my overpowering personal magnetism.

I am totally stealing that line.