Semi-confirmed (ie, started as Town. Not Blackhearts, but may be sinfected):
Peekercpa
Confirmed Blackheart:
Rysto - this was as a result of last Night’s investigation
Confirmed Sinner:
none
Untested:
BillMC (paulwhoisaghost)
Inner Stickler
Joey P.
Mahaloth
Thing Fish
Ok so… This is from AW’s claim…
eliminate myself from the list… and IS because I believe his PM due to its similarity…
Joey P.
Mahaloth
Thing Fish
All three claimed VT… I’ll choose… hmmm… Thing Fish. If we lynch you AW, I want you to investigate Thing Fish. If we don’t lynch you, take a crack at whoever you want.
Let me get this straight - are you calling my claim post editing??? If so, relax. I posted my PM word for word later. I did not post it originally because I did not want to needlessly point out my sin bulletproof power. It still could have been useful, but no.
**By no definition is that editing a PM. I was paraphrasing it, and made it clear I was doing so.
Not. Scummy.**
The trains don’t go to where you live, do they? At best, that is very weak and circumstantial.
Quick question - my motivation for doing that? My Scum motivation that is, since given how quickly I posted my PM, I already had it, so I couldn’t have made it up in the interrum.
And I’ll try to type slowly so that you understand the next part:
Is it unconceivable that there would be different types of Docs? Especially considering that there are different types of Scum?
Is it inconceivble that Rysto is, based on (1), not an anti-BH Doc?
Based on (2), is it inconceivable Rysto is BH?
As for why you unvoted me, maybe you were trying to convince everyone you were approaching this objectively. Personally, it wouldn’t surprise me if you were trying to convince yourself of objecivity. I have been Scum #1 in your mind, and reality can’t seem to penetrate very far.
By the way, I ask again - what kind of Scum do you think I am? You’re kind of all over the shop.
No. This post shows how desperate you are to condemn me. You don’t even think what I write through - you just leap all over it, don’t you?
My PM, which I quoted, is exactly as I posted. E-x-a-c-t-l-y. Understand?
Now, when I said I did not claim my bulletproof-ness…
I
Was
Talking
About
Earlier
In
The
Game.
Understand?
This is a game of intrigue. Controlling the flow of information. I think I explained this to you already.
Oh wait, explaining things to you is a Scum slip. Woops, you got me again. :roll:
Firstly, you again admit to being confused. Laughably ironic, for one thing. Tragic, seeing as how you know for certain so much about things. Pathetic, seeing as how I’ve been nothing but consistent and constantly explaining every little detail to you.
Secondly, this is what I mean when I say you are detached - you are not confirmed Town. You are the nearest thing to it, but that is far from “a proven fact”. If nothing else, you could have been sinfected at any time - any of the Busybodies could have. Like my power, yours only tells you the starting conditions of a few players, not their current status. This doesn’t even include the idea of Scum Mason - unlikely, but far from impossible.
But I can take comfort in the fact that, unlike a lot of people falsely put on trial, it is only a matter of time until the truth comes out.
And on preview, you manage to do it again:
I can’t be sinfected. Assuming the BH don’t kill me, if the Sinner control everyone else but me, what will they do? “Oh no, we can’t convert him!”
If they control the vote, I can die by lynching. I by no means make a Sinner victory impossible. But thanks for playing.
1 a: to prepare (as literary material) for publication or public presentation b: to assemble (as a moving picture or tape recording) by cutting and rearranging c: to alter, adapt, or refine especially to bring about conformity to a standard or to suit a particular purpose <carefully edited the speech> <edit a data file>
YOU EDITED. End of discussion.
Is it unconceivable that there would be different types of Docs? Especially considering that there are different types of Scum?
Is it inconceivble that Rysto is, based on (1), not an anti-BH Doc?
Based on (2), is it inconceivable Rysto is BH?
“'Oh wait, explaining things to you is a Scum slip. Woops, you got me again.”"
Okay. I will keep addressing these points, if only in an effort to convince those who are not either Scum or certifiable.
Now that I know what you mean by edit, what anyone else would call paraphrase, now you have to explain why this is bad. I received my role PM at the start. When claiming, I explained all the relevant details. When pressed, I quoted it word for word.
So, for the benefits of others, why is what I did Scummy? What is the motivation?
Secondly, your quotes force me to ask - Meeko, are you basing your vote on any evidence at all, or is this a he said/she said situation which you are picking sides in? If it’s the latter, that is a long way from knowing I am lying Scum, and knowing Rysto is a Town Doc.
In other words - are you guessing? If so, stop acting like you have arrived at conclusions based on concrete evidence.
Because, for some reason I am still having to explain to you what this game actually is. (This, by the way, is what I meant about your ignorance derailing things, a situation I wanted to avoid. Derailing the thread helps Scum. I was acting antiScum. You attributed this to antiTown. Again, I applaud your insight. Which, of course, is sarcasm - you seem to have missed my earlier sarcasm, so, there you go)
You are asking why I kept my cards close to my chest earlier. I am explaining, again, one of the fundamentals of this game. Maybe you think it’s a good idea for everyone to claim first thing Day 1, under any circumstances? Sometimes the Town has to withhold information. Actively lying is Scummy, withholding is not.
Case study: paul 1
Let me turn it around: what is my Scum motivation for stating that NOW?
Right. Sublety is lost on you. “Laughably ironic” refers to how you post, leaving everyone scratching their heads, trying to fish out your meaning from your waffle.
This game is only slightly more confusing than most others, as most of the confusion comes from trying to work out what people are thinking. The rules are secondary to this.
Irrelevant details. If I were lying, I would have left them out of my PM quote, too.
Now you’re just making stuff up. FTR, false accusations like this a far Scummier than anything I said before toDay, yet somehow I was #2 on Meeko’s Most Wanted.
Pure speculation that I did this.
Inconceivable alternative: I act like Town because I am Town. Everyone acts like Town. Try again.
Pay attention, please. I’m not guessing because I have private information from ped himself. But you are guessing when you choose not to believe me.
I will repeat that: you are guessing. In other words, you were full of shit when you said you knew I was lying. Breath deep. Let this fill your every thought: you don’t know for certain. You are guessing.
I’m going to log off for a while and let you reflect on that. Think about it. Suspend your assumptions, swallow your pride and review the situation. Make sure your case against me is more solid than… this. Stop trying to force things to fit your viewpoint.
How could Sinner Bulletproof work here? This would make Sin Win con next to impossible.
How can Sinners begin to bandwagon a lynch on those who are ““sinner bulletproof”” ?
If they can not sinfect a given population in the game, and have next to impossible odds to happen to by dumb luck and happenstance gather a bandwagon on the exact people that happen to be bullet proof, how on earth can Sinners win?
The bulletproof remark was not an “improvement”. It has helped me zero.
I had days of forewarning before I claimed. Stalling for a few hours to “improve my fiction”? Get real.
BUZZ!
You said I added things to my PM, not my claim post. Of course I “added” things to my claim post - I wrote the damn thing, didn’t I? But whatever - if that is proof of Scum in your world, then I pity you.
That’s not even a question. Your thinking is: AW is Scum, his post doesn’t say he is Scum, therefore he changed it, therefore he is Scum. Please invite me to your Nobel Prize ceremony.
Thaks retard. One of your main arguments is that I was acting like Town to cover for my Scumminess. So, you just undermined your own argument.
You were saying I edited my PM. I did not. I never said I did. Now you are trying to construct a weird semantic link between my claim post and my PM. In other words, the very fact that I wrote a claim post is your “proof”.
If they are confident they control the numbers, the Sinners can mass claim. No Town could fake being sinfected, as the Original Sinners will know they are lying. The Sinfected would claim, know each other, then vote accordingly.
We could all role claim, like we just did. Then anyone with a sinner wincon would automatically see me as a threat to be removed. This is partly why I didn’t want to claim - even if everyone believed me, the BH and the Sinners would start building a case against me. And look at what Meeko-the-mason-but-possibly sinfected is doing! Gosh, how weird.
They could try their luck - the OS could build a case against me using good old fashioned persuation.
And you could think of none of these scenarios? Really?
Can someone explain Meeko’s thinking with this response to the quote? I was talking about how flawed his argument was. I was talking about mymotivations for lying, and he states the fucking obvious.
Meeko obviously Scum want Town dead. My question, if it wasn’t obvious, was how does my actions help the Scum. What you have provided is not a reason. Fucking hell.
Your argument is akin to me saying “Why are you accusing me? Simple, Scum want Town killed” or “Why did Chronos die? Simple, because Meeko wants to kill Townies”
You see what I am saying? Oh God, I hope for humanity’s sake you see what I am saying.
