Bah, that’s nothing. How about some imaginary votes?
Angelpaul (5): Joey P, Allwalker, Nanook, Meeko, Mahaloth
Peekercpa (1): Inner Stickler
TF (1): Rysto
Nanook of the North (1): Chronos
Allwalker (1) Angelpaul
Peekercpa (1): TF
He…uh…tried to split his vote in four (something he could have done with Borda!), which is not allowed. But he unvoted before that, so I counted the unvote.
Anyway:
As the discussion came to a close, the sun shuddered and jerked, and stood in the sky! The townspeople rejoiced, as this was clearly a blessing from God! Everyone knew demons’ powers grew in the night, so perhaps it would remain perpetual day, and the evil ones would be powerless. But it was not to be. The sun stood poised on the horizon for but an hour, after which it dropped into a sunset. The town forced AngelpaulwhowasfromaNorthernGhost, still loudly protesting in broken English, out of the town. The fence glowed. This man was pure of heart.
Angelpaul, an Ordinary Puritan, is dead.
It is night. Day will start at 1:00 PM EST on Tuesday.
Player List:
Alive:
- Allwalker
- BillMC
- Chronos
- [del]Freudian Slit[/del] Peekercpa
- [del]GuyIncognitto[/del] Inner Stickler
- Joey P.
- [del]Justin Credible[/del] Bear_Nenno
- Mahaloth
- Meeko
- Nanook
- [del]Sir Dirx[/del] Rysto
- Special Ed.
- Thing Fish
Dead:
2. [del]AngeloftheNorth[/del] paulwhoisaghost–Ordinary Puritan
4. Captain Pinkies–Hester Prynne (Sinner)
8. [del]Idle Thoughts[/del] paulwhoisaghost–Traveling Preacher (Town Minion Master)
16. Spurious George–Ordinary Puritan
17. Telcontar–Rev. Wilson (Aegis/Purger)
That’s too irrational. Get Real.
Why are so few people voting?
Post 114 Introduction. Opinion that Execution is good for Scum, Ostracizing if we aren’t sure.
Post 122Here’s the flow of this response:
Post 166Agrees with Chronos that the first vote is a wild guess. Votes to Ostracize Spurious with no reason
Post 168Comments on motivation for voting to execute
Post 186Wondering what Meeko means (Meeko had voted to execute Chronos but maybe wanted him investigated)
Post 239Defends votes for Spurious. Lists pros for Ostracizing and Executing
Post 241Agrees with me that using our brains is more important than having power roles.
Post 253Replies to paul, who had dropped a breadcrumb about being able to cancel out Sinfection. In regards to Spurious voting to execute.
Post 259 In response to Angel’s edit, encourages others to not edit. (In response to Freduian saying it was no big deal)
Post 307Wonders if Captains vote for SPurious was Ostracization or Execution
Post 318 Encourages Ostracization to see what happens.
Post 397More on the O vs E
Post 402 Comments on the signal to noise as being maybe a little helpful, but not conclusive in it’s own.
Post 403Comments on paul saying he’s going to vote to execute. (paul had fingered Chronos and Rysto as being suspicious enough to warrant such a vote)
Post 494Wonders if it’s better not not Night Strategize, but is leaning toward it being a good thing
Post 458More on Night Strategery
Post 459NETA
Post 489More comments on O vs E and what Night Actions might mean for someone who is Ostracized
Post 492Even more on the Ostracization debate with Bill. Admits that if it looks bleak for Town, he’d try to convert to the Sinners.
Post 494More on Ostracization, this time with Meeko
Post 496MOre on Ostracization with Mahaloth
End of Night 1
[Comments on Telcontar’s death
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Post 580Comments about the demise of O vs E. Says he’ll miss it. (Yes, it’s about all you’ve talked about)
Post 640Wonders why paul says 2 people were Sinfected
Post 776Thinks paul is Town. Wonders what Meeko means (don’t we all?)
Post 807Wants to keep paul alive (this screams Sinner to me. Paul has an easy way to Sinfect AND convert and Allwalker hints at that.) Vote Nanook for lurking.
Post 817Game play suggestion to Meeko
Post 819Comments with Meeko about Chronos experience
Post 922Unvotes Nanook because he showed up. Votes to replace Captain
Post 926Reposts player list
Post 931Comments on Freudian (peeker) cites low post count, weak vote for Chronos Day 1, and vote agains paul Day 2
Post 965Points out Joey’s weak vote on Day 1 for Spurious
Post 967Comments that he can’t get a read on Thing Fish
Post 979Explains to Meeko why Scum can’t just run the table voting for the lynches
Post 988Votes for Joey, though I’m not sure I understand the reason. Read it yourself and see if it makes sense
Post 1043Unvotes Joey, Votes Captain to try to save Paul (this strikes me as very not pro-Sinner unless it was a bus to bring in a more powerful paul. Imagine his powers after being recruited to the Sinners)
End of Day 2
Post 1067Thankful that we lynched Captain instead of paul
Post 1077Fluff
Post 1081Comments to Joey about voting.
Post 1128laughs at Angle’s post restriction. Thinks Day 2 was good.
Post 1154Reviewed Inner Stickler, has no conclusive results. Tends to believe Meeko and Special are Masons.
Post 1160Points out that it would have been stupid for Meeko and Special to claim Mason with the risk of real masons outing them
Post 1224Peeker (replacing Freudian) comments that Chronos Day 1 suggestion that we all work toward a Sinner win was the most anti-Town thing ever. Allwalker points out that it had pro-Town points too, as it would have forced the cum to claim
Post 1310Comments about Angel’s revelation that she wasn’t going to pray, and how it somewhat confirms paul’s role claim
Post 1314Votes for Angel, because she can retain teh Sinner’s wincon even if purified.
Post 1329Comments on Angel’s OMGUS vote of him
Post 1330Comments on Angel. Why did she tell people she was Sinfected if she was converting? Why did she admit to lying?
Post 1351Ditto
Post 1354Stands with his vote against Angel/Newpaul. Comments on Chronos vote of Nanook for stubborn lurking. (what’s interesting here is that if Allwalker is a Sinner, he KNOWS that Angel is a safe kill as she’s no longer Sinfected. But, it also appeared she wants to be sinfected, hence her claims of lying.)
Post 1373Tries to get Meeko to stop complaining.
I see I missed the end of the Day.
I had started my analysis at 8AM, but real life interfered and I’ve been running children around since then.
I’ll leave time for comments about my analysis of Allwalker before I comment myself.
And, I suppose, I’ll start looking at someone else. It’s tedious, but hopefully it will be fruitful at some point.
Well, it only works on people who know what they are doing, and beyond that, are hiding what it is they are doing.
Once you find that person, you need to find where they not as well hidden as in other posts.
That being said, Don’t look at me.
- I have no clue what it is I am doing.
- I have already claimed
- You, above all other people would know that.
Now, watch everyone else start looking at me here, simply because I say don’t look at me.
But then again, these kinda statements make my previous rants seem to disappear.
I’m going to stop now, while I still can, on my own terms.
NETA :
The only common ground that Haggle and Mafia shares is that of the Double Effect.
Yeah, I’m back in this.
Someone, do something scummy. I need something to attack now.
NETA Because it is a different line of thought:
What Becomes of BillMC ?
I mean, I guess I am ok either way, but Bill himself has questioned if he should stay or not.
Joey had said that he was planning on doing a Wall of Words on someone, but then decided that it would be impossible to do one on Meeko, and therefore decided not to do a WoW on anyone at all. AllWalker was criticizing Joey for this decision, as he could have done a WoW on some other, easier poster, instead of just throwing his hands up. It’s a reason, at least, though I don’t know if it’s a very good one, considering that almost nobody else has done a WoW on anyone, either, including AllWalker.
This would seem to mean that AllWalker is asking for it.
Then again, I guess that Ed, being the mason that he is, heh heh, is doing a wall on Mahaloth, right?
omgus ?
Oh My God U Suck
Basically, an OMGUS vote is a vote in retaliation for a vote. We call it an OMGUS vote because the only reasoning behind it is “Oh My God You Suck”.
What?
You mean, once I find a person who knows what they are doing, I need to find out where they not as well hidden as in…oh crap…what?
I noticed
I claimed for you
Yes, I do. I understood that!
Feeling picked on, are you?
What kind of statements? and…huh?
You mean before someone makes you stop?
I feel like I should know better, but I have to ask. What’s a double effect?
Quoth Inner Stickler:
I just noticed this… Of course she didn’t want to participate; she asked for a sub, didn’t she?
Meanwhile, I haven’t really formed any impressions of Thing Fish yet, so I’m going to go digging through his posts. Back in a bit.
Before she asked for a sub. Maybe the level of participation made her want out or something but the posts she made were antagonistic and not helpful from a townie point of view.
OK, my Wall of Words for Thing Fish:
110: Discusses O vs. E, comes down in favor of O
111: Agrees that editing is bad, and will likely vote for editors (note: he did)
132: Speculates about possible power roles
speculates that two different kinds of lynches might benefit two different kinds of scum
thinks suspicion should not necessarily attach to executioner
admits to not having much idea what’s going on.
Note: Angel had already edited by this point.
[Happy to see votes flying
Finds Chronos’ plan audacious, but doesn’t think it scummy
Thinks most of Spurious’ votes are ill-founded, but would like explanation of his “bandwagon” comment
Votes to Ostracize Angel based on editing, semi-lurking (Ostracize chosen randomly)
[url=“http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11095721#post11095721”]264:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11093175&postcount=217) Speaks further against Angel’s edit
265: Defends possibility of Execute, since we don’t have enough information to choose between them.
Defends use of coin-flip to decide
267: NETA
267, 268: Technical board coding
274: Agrees that current information seems to show O preferable to E, but this probably just means that current information is adequate. Thinks we should try each within the first few days, so as to not advantage one Scum faction over the other.
283: Defends against Angel’s vote, since he didn’t Execute like she’d claimed
299: Questions Angel’s vote again, points out that any editing looks scummy, since we can’t tell why it was done
398: Points out peculiarity of Telcontar’s claim of “votes are scattered”
410: Calls paul on statement that Sinners aren’t so bad, after all
Suspects Spurious is Town, else Scum would have unvoted him. Suspects Angel is scum, for the same reason
443: Fluff
444: Promises to avenge Spurious
445: Calls special ed smudgy
447: Agrees with Chronos that any given player is likely Town, but less so than in a typical game, due to multiple Scum factions
Reiterates that he thought case against Angel was better than against Spurious
449: Obviously possible that any given player is Scum, more important is who’s likely to be
Gut feeling that scum are overrepresented among Spurious voters
467: Thinks we should treat Night just the same as Day re strategizing, but thinks night strategy rule is anti-Town as the rest is nice
468: Hadn’t heard of scum gloating over lynches; says he wasn’t
485: Start of analysis of Day 1 votes. Read this one-- It’s pretty long and in-depth. Expresses low suspicion of Chronos and AllWalker, moderate suspicion of Mahaloth, moderate to high suspicion off Joey P, low to moderate suspicion of Nanook
501: Continuation of vote analysis. Read this too. Moderate suspicion of Freudian, high suspicion of Angel but not increased by vote, moderate suspicion of Pinkies, moderate suspicion of Meeko, thinks Telcontar looks very scummy
742: Apologizes for being behind
848: Complains about Meeko
Suspicious of paul, thinks votes on him were justified
Still thinks case against Angel was good for Day 1, might be best case he has for Day 2, too.
Fine with lynching Nanook or BillMC for lurking
Questions Meeko’s vote pattern
Asks why Angel delayed declaring Sinfection
850: Criticizes Meeko’s plan to stop discussion to keep information away from Scum, votes Meeko until he explains
904: Criticizes Angel’s OMGUS vote on him (not even founded), threatens to change vote to her
905: Clarifies charge of “bandwagon” against Nanook
906: Discussion of rules
907: Unvotes Meeko for Mason claim, votes Angel for making an OMGUS
952: Questions whether paul has confirmed plan to cleanse Angel
958: Discusses possible outcomes of plan for paul to cleanse Angel
1031: Unvotes Angel, votes paul for not agreeing to plan
1056: Celebrates death of Pinkies
1071: Continues support of plan for paul to cleanse Angel, since even if not definitive, will provide info
Points out abundance of lurkers still (Nanook, Joey P, Bear_Nenno, Inner Stickler, and BillMC all having not voted)
1153: Takes paul’s word that there’s a vote-buyer, presumably not a Sinner (since bought vote offed Pinkies
Doubts presence of Doctor, since paul got killed
1155: Missed a couple of pages
Corrects that it was Guy Incognito (replaced by Stickler) who no-voted
Comments that Masons can’t usually communicate
1178: Suspects more than one Sinner to start game, based on game balance, and speculates about mechanism and number of Sinfection
Reconsiders suspicion of Angel, since nobody else seems to see it
Suspects Freudian and Mahaloth, based on paul votes and contribution to Spurious lynch. Also Rysto, who voted paul both days
Laments large number of subs
1190: Admits that Mahaloth’s explanation is consistent with Town, but also consistent with Scum. Reiterates suspicion of Freuidan/peeker, Mahaloth, or Rysto
1202: Thinks further discussion of Sinners is unlikely to be productive at this time
Votes Angel as a joke
1203: Unvotes Angel, admits joke
1258: Helps bring peeker up to speed
speculates pessimistically on how close we are to LYLO
1260: Fluff
1265: Doesn’t want to get into editing discussion again
Expresses desire to get votes out by mid-Day
Votes peeker based on Freudian’s actions, lack of accountability of peeker
1267: Fluff
1268: Presumes existence of doctor based on Meeko’s claim to have been protected
1276: Explains meaning of “fishing”
1280: Agrees with special ed that Sinners had a greater motivation to pile-on paul, but Blackhearts still had a motivation
1349: Calls more suspicion on Freudian/peeker based on old posts (some of which weren’t even by Freudian)
Will switch vote to Angel if necessary
1406: Backs off some on previous post
1408: Says that Seed of Sin is not a good basis for vote, since it can be removed
Agrees that Angel is probably not Sinner, but she might still be Blackheart
Holds back from OMGUS on Rysto since he’s tired, drinking
1414: Asks about peeker unvoting Mahaloth
Comments on large number of nonvoters
No comment on Angel/newpaul